You have to admit that A LOT of the people who enlist nowadays are those who fucked up in high-school or were too stupid and dropped out. Give me a decent cause and i'll fight for it, until then, let the retards serve. I love that shit about duty. As if we have a duty to invade another country who didn't threaten us, which they call "occupation" by the way, and bitch when they shoot at us and then torture them. You say "give them a break", fuck that, we threatened them and we deserve what we get. If you want to lecture about duty, what about the duty to not kill people just because our "leader" tells us to. If you were truly honorable, you wouldn't be there. Honorable people don't have to torture people to feel better about a loss, only monsters do that. I love how people think that humanity gets a "time-out" during war. We weren't defending shit, it was them that were defending themselves. I'm sure those American troops would have been shot at by Iraqi troops while sitting around at home, so you're right, it's justifiable. Ass.