Well said irish_guy@11064, you got to the centre of the argument don’t through a punch unless you are prepared to take one this happened because America invaded Iraq due to greed of oil, & even with oil deposits depleting America as a whole is still the largest consumer of fossil fuels, by running big Chevy blocks ect Don’t get me wrong I love those cars, & I praise them for building them however there is a more serious matter to hand if you are running out of a certain thing you don’t just up & declare war on another country & if you do, then be prepared to feel a reproduction, & when that happens don’t bitch & whine about it as the innocent people that are now paying with there lives have already died in Iraq. Its not morally right but then neither was the invading country, & that’s also why we back in UK were bombed we got involved with something we should not have gotten involved in & lost family members who had nothing to do with it & all because one country was to greedy & some PM got us involved cus he has no balls to take a stance & say no this is not right the UN has found no weapons of mass destruction therefore they are not a threat we need to find the individuals within that country, but I guess this is a higher train of thought that the PM is not capable of.