we are tired of preaching man. it seems you and avengerx are just irritating on purpose. that's o.k. i enjoy throwing 2 cats in a sack and shakin' 'em up as much as the next guy. but when someone attacks you personally you did'nt win, you just achieved a moral victory. noone ever wins an argument on a subject they cannot effect an outcome on. keep it up because you are the king and avengerx has a lot to learn. he's turned to rap crap, further degrading his opinions. was he excommunicated from your dojo? lol.