Bob_the_Apostle Report This Comment
Date: August 11, 2005 12:27AM

This is possibly the earliest depiction of the crucifixion of the "Christos". if you notice the crucified figure has a donkeys head. Some scholars suggest this is making fun of early Christians and suggesting that the "god-king of the Jews" was connected with Seth, the Egyptian God of chaos and "sin". But other more recent scholars have suggested this is the merger of Jesus and Osiris (the Egyptian God of Resurrection who was murdered by his brother Seth). "Christos" is of course a Greek word for "the annointed" and could apply to any of the "dying Gods" like Tammuz, Adonis, Attis, Dionysos and others.

Bob_the_Apostle Report This Comment
Date: August 11, 2005 12:35AM

By the way the donkey in Hellenized Egyptian culture represented "sin" or chaos. In the ancient book The Metamorphoses by Lucius Apuleius the main character who is spiritually lost is transformed into a donkey. The Goddess Isis (wife of Osiris) eventually saves him and turns him into his human form. The donkey headed figure above could represent the worldly human with its head representing chaos and loss. The figure then may represent the transformation from the mundane to the sacred. The death of ignorance to the resurrection of divine wisdom. Isis was also called Isis Sophia and many early Christians (mostly Gnostics) included Divine Wisdom (hagia sophia) as the Goddess Sophia in their mythology.

Bob_the_Apostle Report This Comment
Date: August 11, 2005 12:44AM

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destructor Report This Comment
Date: August 11, 2005 04:14AM

Jesus wasn't a negro, he was an arab. You are a cunt.

destructor Report This Comment
Date: August 11, 2005 04:17AM

Neither were the ancient egyptians. Those black pharoahs were part of the last dynasty, during which the Egyptians were no longer a mediterranean super power, but a dried out husk barely held together by the fledgling priesthood.

Also arabs were the first to bring civilisation to Africa, they did not create any themselves. This is all backed up by facts, the Aztecs left hoardes of evidence for their civilisation even though the spaniards actively attempted to eradicate all evidence of it, yet there is not a single glimpse of civilisation in sub-saharran Africa before hte arabs set up colonies other than the ancient egyptian colonies. Why is this so difficult to accept?

Bob_the_Apostle Report This Comment
Date: August 11, 2005 05:03AM

destructor, you inbred slut monkey, Arabs were not the first "civilization" in Africa. Yes the Egyptians were Meditarraean, but there is not distinct "Mediterranean" race or people. I have lived in the Mediterrean and even am of Mediterranen ancestry. I have friends who are Cypriot Greek who are very very dark skin yet have the other stereotype features of nothern Europeans and I have Turkish friends who are blond. The Meditarranean region is a mix of every "ethnic" army that sailed or march along the coasts or onto islands. The pharoahs under the Greeks and Romans were direct descendants of Ptolomy (Ptolomos who was a Greek from Alexander's Macedonian and Greek army). When you say black pharoahs are you talking of the Kush?

destructor Report This Comment
Date: August 11, 2005 06:28PM

Indeed there are many mediterranean ethnicities AND NONE OF THEM ARE NEGROID!!!

Get a map and look at the Nile. Until around 1500 A.D. the Saharra was like an ocean, completely impassable and no one could live there. The nile and the red sea were the only way to get from Africa to the mediterranean and the middle east. The ancient arabs who ruled this region repeatedly conquerred their way south through history and subjugated and raped the inhabitants, so to this day there is an arab majority right down to Khartoum and the whole of Saudi Arabia is arabic. A few black people made it across the red sea and north via the nile, but didn't cause much of a genetic change as an ancient invasion would have. Bear in mind that this iwas a long time before christianity and there would have been un-regulated rape and pillage of any of the people living there.

The Kushites were an ex-colony who took advantage of the fall of the Egyptian empire. Egypt had just been invaded by the Persians, who were the new power in the eastern mediterranean. It's army had been destroyed. It's colonies had long succeeded from the Egyptian empire by this point and when they marched north, the priesthood there offerred to make the black leaders the new ruling class and cowing the populace in exchange for not destroying them.

The Kushite invasion triggerred a string of conquests of Egypt by foreign forces, Egypt was only conquerred by mediterranean powers from this point onwards. In essence black people were responsible for destroying egyptian civilisation.

This seems to be the only time in recorded history where a large force of black people moved up the nile and ruled some sort of consequential civilisation. Compared to the 2000 years of colonisation and subjugation by the ARABIC ancient egyptians, this episode does not really constitute the fallacy of a black egypt.

I never said the Egyptians were white, I only believe in reality. You can't pass up the racial bias card on this one.

You have been crushed in debate. Admit this please so I can gain the pleasure of success, justify my moral superiority as the purveyor of truth and most of all have some evidence that not all people are ignorant fools who sacrifice sanity for their own petty foibles.

Thanks.

Bob_the_Apostle Report This Comment
Date: August 11, 2005 10:06PM

typical Amerikan male crap about "debate". I perfer dialogue. This is not a debate. We both agree the Kushite took Egypt. We both agree Egyptians like many Mediterranean people tend to be darker skin than lets say northern Europeans. I never wrote a "black egypt" you are fighting with arguements of your past with other people. Step out of your past and read again what I have written.

destructor Report This Comment
Date: August 12, 2005 12:53AM

"the odds are that Jesus was of dark skin like many modern Iraqis or Arabs in Egypt. He might have even been dark like modern Ethiopians."

Sorry if you happen to not be a complete madman, but was too absurd to leave alone.

Bob_the_Apostle Report This Comment
Date: August 12, 2005 05:39AM

destructor oops I mean dickructor, let me guess you think jesus was a blonde aryan man carrying a gun. Pull your dick out of your ass and use that little brain in your thick skull!

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 12, 2005 02:22PM

Or this could be some child's doodle on the wall.

SAGACE1 Report This Comment
Date: January 18, 2006 08:13AM

Gimme a break, just because you hear about or see anything about crucifixion doesn't mean it has anything to do with Jesus, crucifixion was happening before and after his death lots.