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Comments for: STOP US AGRESSION!

Posted by: YoDude
Date: March 09, 2006 07:35PM

Well fucking said 18446! It's amazing how many people in the world seem to be on the "inside" when it comes to information in the world.

"Oh yeah! Didn't you know we invaded Iraq because they had toilets made of gold?! Yeah, it had nothing to do with freedom!"

I'm sure you people talk with G.W.B. every day and ask him what his latest evil plot is and why he does it. You _are_ on the joint chiefs of staff aren't you?

Not only that, too many people think that just becuase no WMD's were found, that obviously there were none. *The absence of proof is not the proof of absence!*

Look at it this way: Let's say you are throwing a party one night and you have a good supply of weed, mushrooms and cocaine in the house. Now, let's pretend a police officer knocks on the door because of a noise complaint. Suppose he smells alcohol on your breath and demands to enter and search the house. You refuse. It's your legal right, it's your house. So the cop says, "Fine, we'll be back in an hour with a warrant." This gives you time to run to the toilet and flush all the drugs away, or even bury them in the back yard. You do after all have a backyard that's huge.

Now, when the cops come back with a warrant, you still don't let them in. Now they have to use force to get in. So they do and arrest everyone there in the process. Now after a thorough search, they find no drugs. But why you say!? Oh wait! They were flushed down the toilet! So, obviously, the drugs never existed! Right?

I mean come on! We gave Saddam too many chances to rid himself of WMD's that were being developed and he refused searches of his facilities. So finally, when we decide that it needs to be solved now or never, we come in full force. But Saddam, having weeks if not months of notice, has already "flushed" his toys down the shitter or buried them in the vast desert of Iraq (86.07% of Iraq's 437,072 km² is nothing but desert wasteland). So when we searched everywhere that we could, we found nothing. Surprising? Not really.

Get a grip people.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 03:18PM


Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 03:31PM

Brilliant strategy, you stupid fuck! You really think these cocksuckers will just leave us alone if we stop "bothering them? Eat shit and die, loser.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 03:39PM

Sounds like you WANT trouble, and you shall have it. They're coming to get you because of what you government has done. Ever heard of the Shah of Iran? The US has attacked country after country and now that our victims are striking back, you dickheads are bent out of shape. What sissies. What cry-babies. AmeriKKKan fuck heads!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 03:42PM

Well as payback we have screwed the Taliban, killed Saddams boys, jailed Saddam, invaded Iraq and maybe next year Ayatolla ass is gonna be on the as long as you fucking arabs dont mind getting fucked 4 times as much "BRING IT ON"...

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 03:47PM

We armed the Taliban! Isn't it enough that we get our asses kicked where ever we try to install puppet governments friendly to our sick aims. And true enough, we're getting our asses kicked again. Insane that you fuck wads still believe we're winning! Oh, and like we won in Vietnam too. Dumb as a bag of rocks you are!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 03:54PM

Wonder why the American educational system is soo poor? Could it be that it's not in the best interest of the government to have citizens who think independently? Better keep you stupid! Easier to feed you on red, white, and blue propaganda.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 05:46PM

You shmuck are all idiots! I guess you think that Neville Chamberlain had the right idea in WWII. Those terrorist understand only one thing and a policy of appeasement is just asking for more trouble.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 05:56PM

WE ATTACKED THEM FIRST. It's not appeasement I'm recommending;I'm asking my government to abandon it's unilateral agression, a policy that it has follwoed since the end of the World War. What part of that don't YOU understand, fuck wad?

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 06:06PM

I guess you know all about being a fuck wad, we have been getting attacked by those towel headed pussies since the early 90's. They are all living in about the 13th century, thanks to their own graft filled goverments who do nothing for them accept keep them poor and stupid. They take in billions from the oil and live like kings while their people live in tents off of goat meat. If they want to know why their lives suck, let them look to their own leaders.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 06:24PM

4594, tell 'em bro.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 06:51PM

WE supported brutal dictators throughout the Middle East since the 50's. Supported the Shah of Iran. Supported dicatorships in Saudi and Kuwait, among others, since the 40's. Those dicatorships sold oil to become rich and let their people eat goat meat. They could pull that off because of western military support. Of course we always maintained we were protecting our economic interests. WE ARMED OSAMA BIN LADEN in the 90's! I know arab people. They have historically liked Americans, but they hate what our government does. They are retaliating against US aggression and intervention in their affairs. Just because you live in the United States doesn't mean you're always right. Our country has been an aggressor throughout the world for 50 or more years. Why else do you supposed they want to attack us so badly. Bush says they hate our freedom. Do you actually believe that? They want us to STOP fucking with them. They are fair and decent people, and if we stop, they will too. But if we continue, they will come here and terrorize you until you learn your lesson. AmeriKKKa is on it's way down. You can beat the drums and repeat the mantra "we're the greatest, we're the best, god loves us more." In the end it isn't going to matter. The whole world knows what's going to happen, but you poor undereducated AmeriKKKans sit blindly and repeat the party line, and march lockstep into the abyss. It's your future; do as you will. You could stop this now, but you haven't the will or the brains. Good luck.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 07:39PM

FUCK YOU, I'm tired of the world blaming the U.S. for it's problems. If your like sucks then it's your fault not ours. If you feel oppressed, then it's because you and the other whiners in your communist country keep putting in the same stupid greedy leaders. It's time for you to take responsibility for your own like and stop crying like babies because someone has more than you!!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 10:28PM

27225, let me give you a little history lesson, because you sure don't have a clue, as is often the case with overzealous people like you. Ignorance always breeds hate and extremism. And I am also guessing your bias is driven by Arab descent (if not you are truly stange). American foreign policy has been driven by perceived threats, not a quest for "oil". During the cold war, the United States was the only thing capable of stopping the Soviet Union from enforcing it's repressive ideology all over the world. If you don't know, the USSR was an extremely aggressive group that were bent on increasing its power, and was a major threat to the way of live we hold sacred. In no way was victory assured. If they were successful, writings like yours would be monitored and you and your entire family would be incarcerated in camps for being "unpatriotic". Just look at North Korean death camps today for an idea. In some desperate situations, the United States supported non democratic regimes in order to check the spread of Soviet control. The middle east was one of many areas of contention for influence. The invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union was an attempt to increase influence over Iran and check the growing fanatical Islamic militancy in region. The US supported anyone prepared to fight the Soviet invasion, including Islamic militants. This is how the Al Qaeda was formed. No one knew that once the Soviets were defeated that the Al Qaeda would fanatically seek religious glory against the west.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 10:30PM

I live in the US. If you're tired of the blame, then have some backbone and stand up to your government. It's time WE stopped OUR government from mettling in the affairs of others. Example: AmeriKKKa continuously laments the unstability in the world, but continues to sell arms to any and all who will pay. Don't provide the weapons, then innocently wonder why the world is going to hell. THere's a reason why they hate you, and it isn't because you're superior or free. Oh, and concerning the big FUCK YOU; no thanks I already had some today.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 10:36PM

"I know Arab people. They have historically liked Americans"
Anonymous@27225 , this simply is not true. Wahabi Islamic schools teach hatred of anything non Islamic. From a very young age, many Arabs are indoctrinated to hate anyone who does not pray to their god. Instead of learning math and science, these schools teach religious extremism and intolerance. Islamic militancy is truly one of the greatest threats to civilization the world has ever witnessed.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 10:42PM

Al Qaeda doesn't "seek glory," they merely want to preserve their political sovereignty and their culture. In short, they don't hate us more than the Soviets, they hate us equally, and were willing to play one against the other to get freedom from our oppression. Please understand that I am an American citizen of Irish-German decent. Now how do you explain ME? I'm honest, open-minded, and willing to understand the real reasons why our victims have suddenly found the courage to gang up and fight back. This day was always coming. And we can't defeat them all. Rather than follow Bush's extremist policy of "we'll defeat them all- North Koreans, Iranians, Iraqis, Al Queada, Solomians, Vietnamese, Cubans, and on and on, why don't we learn from our past mistakes and realize that not everyone is like us. We are exporting democracy, as much as we wish it were so. WE are in an indefensible position and digging our heals in harder. We aren't going to win this one. We can't give them our way of life whether they want it or not. It's OVER. The Soviet Union died a natural death; it's own people took care of that. How much a threat were they really? Well, blowing up the world several time over was never the answer, so perhaps no one really had the upper hand. Maybe it was a smoke screen perpetuated by both governments to keep the pressure on the populations to follow the party line. It was and always has been a matter of "national security" hasn't it, when we've brutalize others? If you want to understand how a "Climate of Fear" plays into the hands of the government to keep us all in line, I suggest you see "Bowling for Columbine," and above all, try to be open-minded, honest and slightly willing to bend a little. We don't dictate anything in the modern world. You may believe we do, but it just isn't so...

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 10:45PM

"AmeriKKKa continuously laments the unstability in the world, but continues to sell arms to any and all who will pay"

Again 27225, you have a very naive understanding of the big picture of geopolitics. If you don't understand complicated things then you should spend your time on more productive endeavors, like collecting stamps or something.
The US sells weapons if that sale helps counter a national threat. They don't just sell Apache helicopters to anyone. If you are so knowledeable about US foreign policy, please specify exactly what "mettling" (actually spelt 'meddling') and weapon sales you are talking about.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 10:46PM

Now do you have first hand knowledge of what all islamic religious schools teach, or are you talking about specific ones? I KNOW arabs who live in the Middle East and they generally like Americans. This is true of most people in the world. They admire your openness to others, but they see your educational limitations. YOU wree raised under veil of educational intolerence. It permieates nearly every statement.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 10:55PM

Oh, well Mr. Anonymous thou who understands it all. Please 'plain it to me and correct my spelling while you're at it. Typical AmeriKKKan arrogance. We do sell our weapons to anyone (or at least they end up in nearly anyone's hands). I know, we pretend surprise and dismay. We do meddle in the internal affairs of other countries for the purpose of our own "national security." Now, where do I start? How about the time we attacked Cuba because our president and his brother decided that Cuba shouldn't be communist. We install Noreaga in Panama , then staged a bloody coup against him when he wouldn't do what he was told. Or Vietnam, where we attempted to make SE Asia safe for AmeriKKKan style democracy, or was it oil- hmmmm! The list goes on and on. If you don't know this stuff, I'm sorry, but I can't help you. How do you think Iraq got divided up beteen warring Arab factions- Sunni, Shiite, and Kurds? Internal stability works in our favor, doesn't it, until the situation explodes. Why did the US supply weapons and intelligence to the Shah. What a bloodthirsty bastard that was. All we ever wanted was to give them democracy sounds pretty like a lie when you think about some of the people we've supported. Other countries are sick of our meddling and want us out. It's over!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 11:09PM

"Al Qaeda doesn't "seek glory," they merely want to preserve their political sovereignty and their culture"
LOL that is good. So you think you know what is motivating these Islamic fanatics to indiscriminately slaughter innocent people. They are RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS!!! They are not motivated by the same logic that westerners take for granted. When Bin Laden was a child, his brothers and sisters thought he was a self righteous pious religious nut. Al Qaeda believes that society should adhere to strict Islamic teachings, and that the freedom of individual expression that western culture values is a threat to their austere visions of society. Just look at Afghanistan during the Taliban era to see what kind of society they want. Women had no rights whatsoever. They were not even allowed medical care in any way. Women ,whose only crime were likely accidentally showing their face in public, were routinely rounded up and marched to a soccer field to be shot in the head in front of cheering men. It was a nightmare regime. This brand of Islam uses fear and the threat of violent death to ensure that the average person adheres to THEIR strict view how people should live. Individual life has no value to these people. They are literally something straight out of the darkest period of human history.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 11:22PM

AmeriKKKan fundamentalism wants a society that adheres to strict christian teachings, to destroy the freedom of individual expression that is a threat to their austere visions of society. Just look at AmeriKKa during the Bush era to see what kind of society they want. Women have fewer rights. No one gets proper medical care unless they work and contribute to the system. Countries that resist AmeriKKKan intervention are brutalized, invaded, and occupied. This a nightmare regime. This brand of "democracy" uses fear and the threat of violent death to ensure that the average person adheres to THEIR strict view how people should live. Individual life has no value to these people. They are literally something straight out of the darkest period of human history. Yes, we all go through development as a society. It wasn't long ago that black people couldn't vote in the US. Many were rounded up and killed. No one invaded us to enforce morality. We worked through our problems. Aren't there other countries where the same terrible Taliban type conditions exist? Why don't we invade them to enforce morality? Perhaps there's just no profit in it? Look, you can sound reall good talking about how we want to help women and promote freedom, but in reality, we've never done that. We're just invaders imposing our economic and military will on other countries. Geez, if we really cared about women and children that much, wouldn't we make sure they were all covered by medical insurance. Yeah, we're out to make the world a better place (for our own political gains), but we forget how our current situation at home looks to the people we're trying to better. It's pretty hypocritical when you look at it like that.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 11:24PM

Indescriminant attacks? They're killing tax payers to try and make us stop funding the military exploits of our government. Believe me, if our government we're so well protected, they'd be taking the brunt of islamic attacks.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 11:44PM

"How about the time we attacked Cuba "
First of all, the United States never attacked Cuba. Where did you get that from? The CIA supported a Cuban exile group and their efforts failed in the "Bay of Pigs" invasion. The reason the Cuban exiles failed was because Kennedy refused to allow US air support or any direct involvement by US forces. Again, Cuba under Soviet control represented a SERIOUS THREAT to national security. Cuba is just off the coast of Florida! The Soviets built nuclear missiles in Cuba that could wipe out half the US within minutes, before the US could assess and respond.
Manuel Noriega obtained power in Panama on his own accord. He did sell information to the CIA but would provide favors to anyone if it served his own interests. He turned Panama into a narcotic state and again this was not in the interests of the United States.
Viet Nam, what "oil" are you talking about??? The US was helping South Viet Nam fight the aggressive communists in North Viet Nam. Allowing the communists to control all of Viet Nam was seen as possibly allowing them assert control over the entire South East Asian region including Thailand which was termed the "Domino Effect". Please refer to my "history lesson" about the Cold War to see why this was not acceptable. Actually, read the history lesson to answer all your questions of what guided US foreign policy in the past. It was the COLD WAR. People don't understand how serious it was apparently. I am thankful naive people like you weren't making the decisions back then.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 11:52PM

What "military exploits" are you talking about??? Iraq?? The Islamic militants were attacking innocent people long before that war. Are you actually justifying killing innocent people just because they pay taxes??? They deserved to die because they can't defend themselves while the governement can???? Your last post really makes me wonder if you are a rational person actually. I might be debating with a complete nut here. So those people in Spain and London deserved to die on their way to work? The children onboard the hijacked planes on September 11 deserved to die because they can't defend themselves?

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 05, 2005 11:57PM

You mean the Cubans had missiles, somewhat like the missiles we had in Germany directly on the border of the soviet countries? How dare them expect to do what we were doing! Didn't they realize how superior we were? IN Vietnam there was a small regieme that would have easily fallen to the north had we not interviened for years and years. In Cuba, we supported the insurgents to the point of providing equipment and manpower. The Cold War was a stand off. Both spheres used fear of the other to maintain control over their people. The only true threat was utter inihilation, and neither side appearently wanted that. Incidentially, it was exactly people like me, a vocal majority, who brought the Vietnam "Crisis" to an end.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 12:03AM

Palitinian children mowed down by US weapons couldn't defend themselves. Japanese citizens at Hiroshima and Nagasaki couldn't defend themselves. Vietnamese citizens upon whom we dropped bombs and nepalm couldn't defend themselves. When you can't get the government, you get the people. It breaks the will of the society to resist. Doesn't work just when the cause is justifiable. Always works. Yes, Al Queada attacked Spanish and British citizens because the governments of those countries engaged in a military campaign in islamic countries. And Germany bombed the fuck out of the Londoners to soften England up for invasion. And the US dropped bombs in Cambotia before the invasion of that country. What is your point, really? Is it okay when we do it, but not okay when they do it back to us?

Posted by: duane
Date: September 06, 2005 12:12AM

Just like Bush said,it will be a long war and we will have to attack terrorism wherever it is.Its been 4 years and the taliban was routed and Sadam arrested,Khadafi is playing nice,and we have found out two of our two faced friends in France and Germany.We have accomplished much and will continue.Either way we were attacking nobody in the 90's yet the attacks increased untill 9-11 but in the last 4 years its been quiet,the reason is because they dont get free passes anymore.They are on the run and have more important things to think about like defending there home land(to bad!)which would not be happening if they did not attack.Its to simple of a plan for someone of a high intellect like yours to understand but very functional.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 12:23AM

Attack terrorism? Where is that country? Anywhere we decide we'd like to attack? So attacks have stopped? All is quiet? Hundreds of AmeriKKKan die quietly in Iraq every month, I guess. No need to come here when the government exposes itself on the battlefield daily! The entire world cautioned us about invading Iraq, but we marched right in against world opinion, and now we're mired down, just as we always are. We have minimal support from other countries. We're suppored by many who wnat economic favors like the Poles. So they throw a few soldiers our way to feign support. The Brits? Well, their citizens we against invading with us from the start. FAce it, we're isolated and looking stupid again! Where are the weapons we invaded to destroy. Uh-oh, there were none? So now our citizens are dying in large numbers in a battle for a country where no one wants us. Again! Seems we've made these mistakes before.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 12:40AM

What was the point of your 10:57 pm post??? It had no point. These missiles were so close to the US that a Soviet strike would take out the majority of the US retaliation measures. This meant that there would be no deterrent to a first strike by the Soviets. You are making strong opinions on things you don't fully understand.
How can you reasonably think that the United States is responsible if an Israeli soldier shoots a Palestinian? Israel manufactures it's own rifles for one thing. The US sells weapon systems like the Apache helicopter in accordance to a United Nations resolution in 1947 that created the state of Israel on Israeli ancestral land. What Israel does to defend itself from incessant, relentless arab attacks is its business. I wonder how you would react if every day some fanatical group blew up a cafe full of teenagers in your neighborhood.
The Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear strike is complicated, not a black and white issue like you believe. Hundreds of thousands of US soldiers would have been killed in an invasion of Japan and millions of Japanese would have fought to the death if it wasn't for those strikes. The conflict would have gone on for years, and Stalin would have joined in for a share in the power distribution. I have actually researched this topic extensively and I am sure you don't have a clue what the issues were at the time.

Posted by: John_Stone
Date: September 06, 2005 12:44AM

>Ding! Ding!< End of Round II. Ok boys, take five.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 12:55AM

The Spanish troops were helping to rebuild roads and schools. They were providing security because there was no effective Iraqi police to prevent anarchy. The average Iraqi welcomed them. The average Iraqi celebrated the removal of Saddams's regime. Only the Sunni elite are upset. You really are a demented person and you are boring me with your predictable intransigent anti-US propaganda. I have heard the same twisted logic bullshit too many times.

Posted by: duane
Date: September 06, 2005 06:24AM

By the way 27225,your numbers are a little twisted 74 died in august,third highest.The only months with heavier combat losses were April 2004 (126 killed) and November 2004 (125 killed), when U.S. forces launched full-scale assaults in the western town of Fallujah.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 08:08AM

If you're sooooo bored, why do you continue to respond. The point I was making about Cuba (again, since you appear to have missed it) is that if the US can have nuclear missiles on the soviet border, why can't the Soviet Union have missles near the US border. The question of deterrence goes both ways (at least in MY mind). Your arguments are very on-sided, which is what I would expect from a pro-military, fascist type. So now the US doesn't support Israel? Ha! That's a laugh. We all know it's true. And you make assumption about that which you know nothing. I may be pro-Israel, but innocent Palestinians who are the vast majority have had their children killed, their homes destroyed, etc, and their perception is that the US government played a part in that. Look, if want to deny that the US palyed any role in the many wars launched in the past 50 years, if the nuclear attacks on Japan were so complicated that none of us poor mortals could possibly begin to understand what you, oh master, know to be true, go stick yer head back in the sand and believe what you will. Continue to twist your historical facts to support what you already believe about the world. It really comes down to one question. If all you say is true, that the US is innocent and has never been the aggressor in any world conflict, why is it that the rest of the world hates us so? Bush says they hate our freedom. I find your arguments and your round one laughable (like you control something????). Your assertion that all has been "quiet" since 9-11 is a joke. We're mired in a war where AmeriKKKans die daily fighting another unwinable conflict. If that's okay with you, then it's okay, but I believe the majority of AmeriKKKans aren't okay with it. So that makes you the minority opinion. !

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 08:30AM

I would be worrying about China!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 09:27AM

America will reap as they have sown.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 09:49AM

Ah, well China is another issue. Wonder why our misleaders so willingly run a trade deficit with a communist trading partner who threatens our position in the world. Perhaps our representitives no longer represent US? I would make that last statement in a slighly differnt way, but I agree wholeheartedly. AmeriKKKa IS REAPING what it has sown.

Posted by: katalyst
Date: September 06, 2005 10:14AM

after reading this saga i feel that 27225 is a retard who doesnt know how to spell. He also doesnt know what a history book is either. 95205 im pretty much with you on what youve said..but i dont believe the atomic bombs needed to be dropped to be honest. Japan at that stage was starved, and the war was pretty much over. i doubt very much they could have launched any sort of effective attack that couldve changed the outcome of the war. but then again the leader of japan at the time was a ruthless bastard and refused to surrender no matter what the cost. until of course he saw the proof in front of his eyes that the war was unwinnable.

im not particularly knowledgeable about the whole israel/palestine conflict..but lets think about it..israel is definately NOT an innocent player in this one. tanks vs rocks & molotovs. not a chance. but because both sides have commited so many acts of unspeakable killing and murder the chances of both countrys living peacefully is slim to none. i was AMAZED that isreal has pulled out of one section of the disputed territory...even its own people fighting against the army. progress? maybe but who knows. whats interesting to note that on any world map or globe the area isreal/palestine having been fighting over all these years is always in grey and put as "Israel occupied territory since 1947".

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 11:15AM

no matter what you say it's still going to happen. that's the world today!! you all fight like little girls on here and think your opinion matters foolish little rabbits you are..

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 11:53AM

It really comes down to one question. If all you say is true, that the US is innocent and has never been the aggressor in any world conflict, why is it that the rest of the world hates us so?

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 11:54AM

It really comes down to one question. If all you say is true, that the US is innocent and has never been the aggressor in any world conflict, why is it that the rest of the world hates us so??

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 11:55AM

It really comes down to one question. If all you say is true, that the US is innocent and has never been the aggressor in any world conflict, why is it that the rest of the world hates us so???

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 12:50PM

Instead of guessing what the issues were when the Hiroshima / Nagasaki bombs were used, read what the actual facts were. A good web page is [] . Millions of Japanese were prepared to die to fight for their emperor and home land. It is deeply ingrained in the culture to not surrender dishonorably. This fact was made obvious in the small island invasions on the way to the Japan home island. The Japanese soldiers would not surrender, they fought on to the death as long as they were ordered to. Women living on the invaded islands jumped of cliffs to their deaths rather than face humiliating surrender to the despised foreigners. Hundreds of thousands of US troops would have been killed in the horrible battle. Being killed in face to face combat was the only honorable outcome for the Japanese. However, being incinerated by a faceless bomb was not honorable, and therefore the nuclear bombs compelled the Japanese military elite and emperor to order Japanese society to lay down their arms. MILLIONS of people would have been killed if the United States invaded Japan. Instead, about 200,000 Japanese were killed. Remember, it was the unprovoked Japanese who attacked the United States at Pearl Harbor. Also many people do not realize, the Japanese slaughtered MILLIONS of Chinese in an attempt at genocide. They even experimented using biological weapons (black plague) on Chinese villages. Japan deemed the Chinese inferior and had aspirations of annexing a part of China for the Japanese Empire.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 01:06PM

Anonymous@27225 about Israel, again you are over simplifying a very complex issue, and forming strong opinions on things that are beyond your grasp. (every average Joe thinks they are an expert on geopolitics apparently) Yes, the United States supports Israel in accordance with the UN resolution of 1947 to create the state of Israel on their ANCESTRAL land. Israel was then attacked by its neighbours many times, one of which was the war of 67. The United States sells weapons to Israel in order to deter Israel's neighbours from invading again. According to you, Israel is indiscriminately slaughtering Palestinian women and children. If this was true, there would be no Palestinians alive today. The truth is, Palestinian militants attack Israeli civilians regularly and then flee and hide behind women and children. When Israeli Defense Forces respond, collateral damage occurs. Israel destroys the homes of suicide bombers because the families of suicide bombers receive large cash payments from islamic militant groups. Therefore a financial deterrent is needed to counter the financial incentive to kill Israeli civilians.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 01:14PM

It really comes down to one question. If all you say is true, that the US is innocent and has never been the aggressor in any world conflict, why is it that the rest of the world hates us so???

Because most people are ignorant and have a naive understanding of the responsibilities and challenges of being a global superpower. The United States responds to perceived threats and has the right to do so. I am sure the same hateful opinions were voiced about the ancient Roman Empire and the British Empire. It's human nature.

Posted by: John_Stone
Date: September 06, 2005 02:40PM

*sigh* It's difficult being a superpower. No partner power to make you breakfast in the morning, having to watch over and punish all the other littler powers. It's a lonely job.

But, dadgummit! the US will consistantly step up and drop illegal cluster bombs on anyone who challenges us! We are bringing Freedom(tm) and Democracy(tm) to all you sorry bitches, and you'd better like it, or else! We're here, we're /NOT/ queer, and we're gonna keep on making you brown people toe the fucking line, and we WILL NOT take any more of your SHIT! Got it? (Jeee-zus...) We'll keep you confused with Strategic Ambiguity(tm), and use Shock and Awe(tm) to ensure that you cower in terror of our mighty might.

Walk softly, take what you want, and carry a Big Fuckin' Stick! /THAT's/ our policy, and we're stickin' to it!

(Until the economy tanks and China takes over, that is...)

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 03:20PM

Ah, I understand about the Japanese now. Since they slaughtered millions, and since they were willing to fight to the death to defend their homeland, that gave us the right to use a weapon of mass annihilation. I see. And the reason they hate us is because they just don't understand us. To know us is to love us, right? Idiots.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 03:27PM

I have to say, you warhawk junkies sound like a bunch of morons. Like you control something. Like you're big and bad. Crybabies and sniviling sissies!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 04:35PM

Anonymous@12098 no you are an idiot. Yes, if using a weapon of any kind will save the lives of millions of people then that is a no-brainer good decision. What the hell is your point??? That is like saying "aaahhh, I understand the Nazis now. Just because the Nazis exterminated millions of Jews and Slavs, invaded all of its surrounding neighbours, killed 20 million Russians, and cost an unfathomable economic toll on humanity, that gives us the right to defeat their armies and execute them huh?" You are stating the obvious yet trying to express it sarcastically. Strange....

Posted by: ToucanSam
Date: September 06, 2005 06:13PM

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 10:48PM

The lives saved by dropping the bomb were AmeriKKKan lives! ISn't that a bit self-serving?

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 06, 2005 11:03PM

Oh, boo-hoo! those POOOR terrorists, they're being oppressed! Why all this bombing and murder of innocents is just their cry for help! Perhaps you bootlicking europussies can invite them over for tea and biscuits, and give 'em a few words of comfort so they won't be so upset at all of us!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 12:42AM

So I take it you haven't read a single post here and just decided to make a mindless, moronic comment like a good little AmeriKKKan jerk-off? The discussion was concerning the Japanese at the end of world war 2 and had nothing to do with terrorists (unless you consider the US governement a terrorist organization?) or "euro-pussies (I am an AmeriKKKan citizen but certainly NO AmeriKKKan). Get a brain, dumbass!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 02:17AM

LICK my sweaty AMERICAN nutsack.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 02:18AM

Oh, and get the fuck out of here if you hate it so much.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 04:00AM

Anonymous@90130: heheh

Anonymous@27225 : You don't seem to understand what kind of environment existed during World War 2. Millions of people were being killed. Untold billions in economic loss. More Americans would be killed in a few hours than the entire Iraq war today. It was an era that people today really can't comprehend. Who's lives should the United States worry about in a time of maximal effort all-out war??? The Japanese were NEVER worried about saving American lives. They wanted to kill as many Americans as they could. If they had a nuclear weapon you can be sure they would have used it on an American city. (the Germans tried to develop nukes but their labs were blown up in bombing raids) The Japanese were very efficient in genocidal slaughter actually and they proved that in China. One thing they did was develop a virulent form of plague and then infected rats that they released into Chinese villages. Over 11 million Chinese were killed by the Japanese Imperial army. Secondly, the bombs saved Japanese lives by forcing the Emperor to give an order to all Japanese to stand down. Before the bombing, every man woman and child in Japan were preparing to fight to the death with guerrilla warfare. They believed that the United States would not endure the massive casualties that would ensue and would agree to favorable surrender terms. Also, if the war was prolonged, it is estimated that 10 MILLION Japanese would have starved to death. Hundreds of thousands would have been killed by conventional bombing raids. The United States strategic planners knew they needed an economically strong Japan after the war in order to stabilize the region and prevent the spread of Soviet influence. The war needed to be ended quickly before Japan was completely destroyed and the bombs provided that opportunity.
Even if you are correct, and the United States is a self serving imperialist meddler in other countries affairs, the US is a saint compared to Germany, Russia, and Japan. Millions upon millions of people were killed by these regimes. The economic cost to mankind is of course incomprehensible. But people have short memories, and the world seems to view these countries in a brighter light than the Unites States.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 04:42AM

95205, you are a scholar. As eloquently as you've explained this small slice of world events of the last century, I'm afraid it will fall on deaf ears in this thread. Guess I'm not the only one who watches the History Channel, eh?

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 11:02AM

90130 you should learn from it...

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 12:14PM

History channel proraganda doesn't cut it! What about the other 30 countries the US has attacked since WW2? I live here, I pay my taxes enven though I despise how the money is spent, and according to theory of AmeriKKKan dumbocracy, I have a "right" to express my opinion regardless of how distasteful it is to you. Now, I've heard your "love it or leave it" bullshit since I was a kid, and guess what, stick that right up your fucking ass and rotate. I'm not going anywhere and I WILL continue to speak out against this aggressive, war-mongering military dictatorship whether you like it or not. Pass a law to put me in jail if you can't tolerate my view. Shithead.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 12:21PM

Yes, if the Japanese and the Germans had nuclear weapons they most certainly would have used them. So you think the US is not better than the Japanese and Germans during WW2, right? Well, there are countries that have nuclear weapons and are going to use them against US, and the rest of the world is going to say, "well, what can you expect, the US used them first." So there's going to be no defense. Let's see how your explanation of "the unique environment that existed in WW2" plays out when we get a taste of our own genocide.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 01:41PM

So you have been a left wing contrarian freak since you were a kid huh? I bet nobody liked you. Anyway, how is the History Channel propaganda? Do you know what propaganda means? So you think the History Channel is in a conspiracy with the US government to forward a secret imperialist facist agenda? Haaaaaaahahahah!!! I am assuming that you think all the western media are distributing lies to keep our society in line. So I am curious, where do you get your facts from?

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 01:58PM

Please list the 30 countries that the United States has attacked. I will then ask you how the attack was an example of unjustified aggression. Please refer to actual historically accepted facts (the kind the History Channel uses for example). Of course the United States has never been afraid to take action when that action is justified. For example, Kosovo when the Serbians were slaughtering thousands of local muslim men women and children in death camps.
Or Somalia where Somali warlords were confiscating food aid to gain power over the starving people. Or how about Korea when the North Koreans decided that they wanted to have control over South Korea. I know South Koreans and I can assure you they did not want to be invaded by the North and are VERY grateful for American intervention. Or how about the brutal Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. I can assure you the Kuwaitis are very grateful the United States led an effort to remove Saddams's pillaging raping armies. And actually most Iraqis (Shiites and Kurds who make up majority of Iraq)are grateful for the defeat and removal of the elitist Baathist regime. Only the Sunni's, who lost their priviledged postions and status are unhappy.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 02:01PM

Have you ever heard the news from outside of this "great" land of ours? You know, varying points of view on the days events. AmeriKKKan public opinion is formed basically by watching the same news broadcast on all channels and swallowing the "facts" as presented. In other free nations, people hear various viewpoints, discuss without calling one another names (like "left-wing" which isn't a derogatory connotation in other countries), and then they form opinions based on thought processes. AmeriKKKans just eat their garbage and shit it out. I'm quite sure that you are one of those who in other circumstances deride the US media for it's slanted and narrow presentation of "facts." Can't have it both ways. Believe what you need to believe about me to justify your position- nobody likes me; I'm a contrarian, a curmudgeon, whatever suits you. Yes, I've always resisted the red, white, and blue military dictatorship. When we stop attacking country after country that refuse to build McDonalds on every corner, I'll learn to live in peace in this land. Incidentially, my views are a little more complicated than you make them out to be; I describe myself as a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. More of a libertarian than anything. SO know you know and can stop wasting your time guessing and accusing.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 02:07PM

Hmmmmm, what is propaganda? Propaganda is the presentation of "facts" to support a view without regard to truth, ie. to begin with a view and then "prove" it with "facts". "Facts" (sic) disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 02:11PM

A faction of people supported our intervention in each of those instances, but to speak in generalities and to say that "the Koreans" were grateful, the "Iraqis" were grateful is a lie. The majority of Vietnamese were NOT grateful to the US at the end of that debacle. Keep presenting "your facts" as truths and I will accuse you of spreading propaganda.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 02:26PM

US aggression breeds terror: UN chief
By Caroline Overington, Herald Correspondent in New York and Maggie Farley
September 24, 2003

I am not alone in my views. As a matter of fact they are widely held. That these views are extremist is your lie. You choose to believe that lie, and you propagate it.


Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 02:47PM

Just how do you know most South Koreans were not grateful for US intervention during the North Korean invasion? Where are you getting your facts? I got mine from a respected University and my extensive contact with South Koreans through my work. It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the South did not want the North's communist ideology imposed on them. I am arguing with MORONS!!!! and yes I am wondering why I feel compelled to keep coming back to this ridiculous debate with intransigent left wing idiots that view the world through their pink coloured biased glasses. You refuse to believe facts that don't fit your agenda. You make up facts to support your beliefs. In no way are you objective and allow the facts to form your opinions. You basically represent how irrational and unreasonable human nature can be.
Oh no please don't accuse me of spreading propaganda please nooooo!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 03:04PM

121121, learn what? I know enough about world history and events to keep you boys occupied for a month. I'm just agreeing with a fellow poster who took time to explain what I don't need to.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 03:32PM

RE: US aggression breeds terror: UN chief

Well that really is the opinion of ONE man isn't it? Opinion, not fact. And he is talking about aggression towards terrorist groups and countries that harbour and assist them, not the general aggression you are talking about. He is advocating the negotiation with terrorists rather than confronting them militarily. He BELIEVES violence will breed more violence. He is not necessarily correct. It is entirely possible that muslim extremists will take whatever concessions they get and simply demand more and more until they perceive the west as no longer being a corrupting influence on their strictly controlled Islamic vision of society. This is IMPOSSIBLE. It is a natural progression of humanity to achieve individual freedom to do whatever each individual desires as long as this does not infringe on the rights of others. Islamic fundamentalists do not accept this progression and want severe restrictions on individual freedom, using death, fear, and violence to enforce their views over others.
Recent news regarding Annan: In a devastating assessment of the U.N. oil-for-food program in Iraq, investigators strongly criticized Secretary-General Kofi Annan, his deputy and the Security Council for allowing Saddam Hussein to bilk $10.2 billion as a result of the giant humanitarian operation.

Posted by: duane
Date: September 07, 2005 05:24PM

Guys,the only way the America haters will be happy is if we lose.Ellen Ratner left wing journalist got right on tv and said she hoped the war went bad so Kerry would win the election.Seems to be a little fucked up if you ask me.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 07:50PM

• The essence of being a liberal: “The absolute conviction that there is one set of rules for you, and another, completely different set of rules for everyone else.”

Posted by: aDCBeast
Date: September 07, 2005 08:16PM


another projecting conservative.

Projection - doing exactly what you accuse other of doing.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 10:55PM

90130, convinced you know enough about world history and events to keep us boys occupied for a month, yet incapable of holding a coherent conversation. Inane babble gains you nothing. Try to avoid it.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 11:06PM


Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 11:08PM

Sorry, I need to get my facts straight. There were only 27 invasions and police actions by the US government in the poast 30 years!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 11:20PM

Geez, that list ended in 91. Since then there's been Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq again. I am truely ashamed of my government.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 07, 2005 11:53PM

Does any sane person believe that shit, if we just leave them alone, they will leave us alone. What was that guys name Nevil Chamberland England 1941 "Hitler can be worked with. We have achieved "Peace in our time" Go stick your head up your ass or in the sand. GWB kill them all, until there is no more to rape women and cut off head of the innocent.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 12:14AM

Nevil Chamberlain believed that if we allowed the Nazis to occupy the smaller countries of eastern Europe, that would appease them and they would never invade England. Has nothing to do with the United States' unilateral aggression against innocent countries. Moron! WE STARTED IT! We are not the innocent and injured party. WE ARE THE NAZIS in your argument. Get it?????

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 12:15AM

I wish you weren't as stupid as you are, but there's nothing I can do!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 12:17AM

GWB may try to kill them all at your urging, but when they kill you back because George is too well protected, don't wonder why, okay?

Posted by: John_Stone
Date: September 08, 2005 12:29AM

>Ding!< End of Round III! And a strong round it was...

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 12:33AM

I appreciate your sense of humor! I get way too caught up, I know...

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 12:56AM

Inane babble? I call a spade a spade. Ta

Posted by: cornbread
Date: September 08, 2005 01:11AM

This may seem a bit simple and childish but....they started it.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 01:12AM

On September 7, 2005, 6:50 pm Anonymous@90130 said : The essence of being a liberal: “The absolute conviction that there is one set of rules for you, and another, completely different set of rules for everyone else.” Yes, inane babble, although perhaps babble is in ear of the beholder. I think you're a moron, albeit a moron with an excellent fascist education who can interpret revisionist history like none other. TootleS!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 01:14AM

Well, when your discussing what motivates a "terrorist," it helps to know how events are perceived.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 05:21AM

Wonderful thing, this internet. Where else you can take broad swipes at anyone who disagrees with you and name call without fear of getting your ass kicked?
If you met me in person, in a line at a movie theater or sat next to me in a cafe, your loose and grossly inaccurate perceptions of who I am would be completely different. Besides, there's very little that can be accomplished arguing with each other in this forum. Everything's in motion around us, and there's not much you or I can do to change any of it.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 05:34AM

It's a moot point, dipshits. Oh and 3778, it's really cute how you cleverly incorporated "KKK" into "American." Somehow you're implying that every American shares the beliefs and ideals of the organization which advocates white supremecy, anti-semitism, anti-catholicism, and nativism. Please explain further.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 12:33PM

Actually no. The connotation AmeriKKKan implies that the government of this country is a military dicatorship, ie. on the far right. Isn't that clever? Of course, if the shoe fits you, wear it, boy.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 12:38PM

90130, yes the internet is a wonderful place where bombastic baffons like yourself can threaten others with violence and never face the consequences. In a movie line you'd have to watch your mouth or be charged with threatening and assultive behavior. I know, isn't awlful that we live in such a litigous society. You probably like the "old" way better, where the person you threatened could pull and gun and blow your empty head off. It's best not to make statements you can't back up. You seems to have a problem with that. Try to do better.

Posted by: John_Stone
Date: September 08, 2005 01:00PM

"The essence of being a liberal: “The absolute conviction that there is one set of rules for you, and another, completely different set of rules for everyone else.”"

I thought that was the definition of a chauvanistic American.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 04:03PM

Thanks, 51201, just the response I'd expect here.
And my previous comments are now fully vindicated. FUCK YOU!

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 04:07PM

Oh yeah, get spellcheck on your desktop while you're at it..."baffons" correct spelling would be "Buffoons"...this site runneth over with the likes of you.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 06:14PM

Hmmmm. Perhaps being a product of the AmeriKKKan educational systems hasn't served me well. Maybe I take personal responsibility for not speeling well. Maybe I just enjoy your efforts to correct me too much to run spell check. Yes, you are fully vindicated in your mind, now rather than trying to fuck me, why don't you just fuck yourself. You seem to be the only person you can tolerate.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 08:00PM

Well, Mr. KKKK...ah, what the fuck. Look, If you're nice to everyone on this and other threads where you've spouted off your foaming vitriol, I'll pitch in and buy you a new keyboard like I suggested in another thread, since yours gets stuck on the letter "K" and the caps button's fucked up. If you need help with the spelling, pronunciation, and meaning of the word "vitriol"
here's assistance:

Main Entry: criticism
Part of Speech: noun 2
Definition: disapproval
Synonyms: animadversion, aspersion, bad press, blast, brickbats, call down, carping, cavil, censure, critical remarks, cut, cutting, denunciation, disparagement, faultfinding, flak, hit, knock, knocking, nitpicking, objection, opprobrium, pan, panning, put down, quibble, rap, roast, slam, stricture, swipe, vitriol
Antonyms: approval, compliment, praise, raves
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2005 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved.

Main Entry: disapproval
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: condemnation
Synonyms: black list, blackball, blame, boo, boycott, brickbat, call down, castigation, catcall, censure, criticism, denunciation, deprecation, ding, disapprobation, discontent, disfavor, dislike, disparagement, displeasure, dissatisfaction, hiss, nix, no way, objection, opprobrium, ostracism, reproach, reproof, stricture, thumbs down, vitriol, zing
Antonyms: acceptance, approval, blessing, commendation, favor
Source: Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)
Copyright © 2005 by Lexico Publishing Group, LLC. All rights reserved

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 08:10PM

Here's another swell word:


Asshole or arsehole (outside the U.S.) is a term referring to the anus. It is generally used as a profanity in expressing deep contempt for someone or to describe a particularly abrasive person.

This word is found in colloquial speech in a number of cultures (in both English and in direct translation to other languages). This is due to the fact that it describes an organ of elimination that is considered a taboo region (belonging to the intimate parts) of the body in many societies.

The English word ass (meaning donkey, derived from the same root as its zoological name Equus asinus) may also be used as a term of contempt, referring to a silly or stupid person. In recent years, the words arse and ass have become synonymous in the United States, however in the rest of the world, ass still only refers to the donkey, rather than the arse (buttocks). It is worth noting that some varieties of English drop the letter "r", leading to practically identical pronunciations of ass and arse.

Until the early 1990s, the word was considered one of a number of taboo words that could not be uttered on American commercial television.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 10:52PM

aus Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklopädie
Arschloch steht umgangssprachlich für den Anus. Das Wort wird hauptsächlich als Schimpfwort gebraucht.

Der Wortbestandteil Arsch stammt ursprünglich aus der altsächsischen Sprache. Im Angelsächsischen (Altenglischen) bedeutet ærs Hinterteil. Diese Wurzel ist im heutigen Englisch noch im Wort Arse erkennbar, das im amerikanischen Englisch zu Ass verschliffen wurde. Der Begriff Loch ist althochdeutschen Ursprungs und bedeutet Öffnung. Die Kombination dürfte frühmittelalterlich sein, da sie inhaltsgleich sowohl im Englischen als auch im Deutschen vorkommt. Im Althochdeutschen ist für den Anus dagegen primär der Ausdruck Darm, Derm zu finden, der später auf das Intestinum übertragen wurde.

Verwendung in der Literatur
Durch Charles Bukowski bekam der Ausdruck Arschloch auch seinen Platz in der Weltliteratur. In seinem Werk "Der Mann mit der Ledertasche" beginnt er einen Absatz mit: Was hast du denn gegen Arschlöcher? [1] und auch sonst setzt er das Wort wenig sparsam ein.

Roland Topor schrieb bereits 1975 Mémoires d'un vieux con, deutsch: "Memoiren eines alten Arschlochs" - eine fiktive Autobiografie, noch lange bevor unsere Buchhandlungen von prahlerischen Selbstdarstellungen von Promis und Stars überschwemmt worden sind. (Diogenes Taschenbuch 1977, ISBN 3-267-20775-1)

"Kleines Arschloch" von Walter Moers ist eine durchaus bekannte Comicfigur. Eine große Buchhandelskette in der Schweiz warb lange mit dem kessen Spruch: "Wer das kleine Arschloch nicht kennt ist selber eins"

Siehe auch:
Arschloch (Kartenspiel)
Götz von Berlichingen (Goethe)

Von "[];
Einordnung: Schimpfwort

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 10:54PM

Was hast du denn gegen Arschlöcher?

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 08, 2005 11:20PM

Thanks for the offer, but no, my keyboard and spell checker are fine. Sorry you found my vitriol so caustic; just wanted you to know, there are those of us who don't believe all the crap they teach us here behind the iron curtain. There's a big, free world out there. You should check it out. If you do decide to peak from beneath the covers you have drawn over your head, you might find what you see interesting. I read your posts with an open mind; trouble is, I've heard the information before. I read those books too when I was in college. Remember, just because something's in a book, that doesn't necessarily make it true.

Posted by: Lexicographer
Date: September 09, 2005 12:09PM

+Peak+ from under the covers, 27225? Don't you mean peek?....and surely 'caustic vitriol' is oxymoronic?

Posted by: Lexicographer
Date: September 09, 2005 12:11PM

+Peak+ from under the covers, 27225? Don't you mean peek?....and surely 'caustic vitriol' is oxymoronic?

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 09, 2005 05:42PM

Sorry you found my vitriol so caustic; just wanted you to know, there are those of us who don't believe all the crap they teach us here behind the iron curtain. There's a big, free world out there. You should check it out. If you do decide to peak from beneath the covers you have drawn over your head, you might find what you see interesting. I read your posts with an open mind; trouble is, I've heard the information before. I read those books too when I was in college. Remember, just because something's in a book, that doesn't necessarily make it true.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 09, 2005 10:12PM

you are full of shit comparing what is going on now to natzism that was genocide you fucking retard i don't disagree that things are fucked up but it is nowhere near what hitler tried to accomplish. When you say natzi this this and natzi that it really demeans the valid point your trying to make.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 10, 2005 12:40AM

Well, you see, Hitler didn't start out with the atrocities he committed; he worked up to them. And the US military dictatorship, which a fascist regime, is committing genocide and attacking other countries like the Germans did in World War Two. Now, we have not yet murdered millions of our own people, yet, but just today we changed the interpretation of AmeriKKKan law to say that people can be imprisoned indefinately without being charged and tried for a crime. So you see, we are moving in the same direction as was Nazi Germany. Martial law and use of the legal system to remove personal rights in order to control what people can say and do. Nazism has degrees, and we're not quite to the level of Hitler's Germany, but we're moving in that direction.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 10, 2005 11:24AM

i still think it is very irrational to think that we may turn in to a genocidal fascict state,however I do agree that many of our civil liberties are being trounced but i still think it is a huge stretch to compare tha to mass genocide.

Posted by: John_Stone
Date: September 10, 2005 02:44PM

No, it won't come to mass genocide, or possibly even camps of some sort, although that remains to be seen. More like there will just be so many loosely-defined laws that They will be able to "justify" military/police actions against people here whenever They want. Think of them as "Temporary Police States", that will allow them to quash legitimate manifestations, and round up the "troublemakers/poor" and detain or relocate them. Something like that.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 10, 2005 03:06PM

Well, the country has laready commited mass genocide in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, so there is that prescedence. I do worry about our rights. Obviously, I have a lot to worry about since my views are not very popular at this time.

Posted by: duane
Date: September 11, 2005 03:00PM

John I told you in a prior debate that is why they legalised abortion euthinasia to desensitise the population to death in Nazi Germany.Kinda like the death of a group(old people/babies)for the good of society.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 14, 2005 12:26PM

is genocide not the attempt to wipe out an entire race not just a portion to win a war it would be more prudent to argue murder but that was most definately not genocide

Posted by: jeef
Date: March 11, 2006 07:16AM

No one deserves this but if it wasnt for americas ethics this wouldn't of happend

Posted by: Duane
Date: March 09, 2006 08:56PM

Zackley!What you just said makes way to much sense to be heard by college professors.I was there for the drug reference way to many times in my earlier years but made it out without one charge on my record.One instance I was trippin on two hits of tripple pane and the cops were taking our pictures and the lady cop told me to stop smiling.I said"I can't"she repeated stop smiling I said"I can't".If you have been there you know what I'm talking about winking
smiley.Being serious though I think most people think they hid the weapons when they knew the gig was up.

Posted by: The_Truths_a_BITCH_aint_It
Date: January 06, 2006 01:06PM

Well, stupidity is unfortunately contagious, but the Iraq war was an unbelievably stupid mistake foisted on us by people who saw the opportunity to make a shitpile of money for themselves at the cost of taxpayer money, lives and our national credibility.

But it couldn't have happened if we hadn't grown three generations of fucking idiots whose only reality was a bunch dumbassed Bruce Willis movies.

It ain't enough to just blow the fuck up out of something. We have to be smarter than that even if it is our fault we were stupid enough to bred essentially a stupid "warrior" class trained by a quarter century of video games and civic illiteracy.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 23, 2005 07:17PM

You Americans will all perish some day.
As the rest of the human race.
War, Nature, anything, will kill us all.
Until it happens, you should prove you are trying to make the world a better place instead of ruining it

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: January 02, 2006 12:35AM

On October 28, 2005, 5:55 am aDCBeast said :
Not all of us american will perish. Just conservatives will perish in a civil war.

How can that be, since liberals believe in gun control, or maybe you think they wouldn,t be used in a civil war.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: September 29, 2005 08:09PM

fuck you!!!!!but you are right we should stop fucking with them ,we should KILL ALL THEM FUCKERS!!!!!!

Posted by: aDCBeast
Date: October 28, 2005 01:55AM


Not all of us american will perish. Just conservatives will perish in a civil war.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: October 29, 2005 10:35PM

We should nuke the entire middle east, and hang anyone who thinks we deserved 9/11.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: November 02, 2005 02:46PM

Fucking muslim cunts,i hate every single one of them. I will beat the fuck out of 3000+ muslims with a baseball bat to take my revenge. watch your backs Muslim Fuckers, I'm right behind you.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: November 10, 2005 05:38AM

....hehe anonymous 13692 ...heheh if u have such a big dick why dont u put in an american cunt u perverted gay ...u think with some words like fuck and cunt and beat em all u could change something ....ur so tuff ...get some steroid for ur nice curved ass ....what do u know about muslims anyway , arabs ..? why christians in the arab world hate the new conservatives??...why catholics hate protestant and vice versa ...why talkin about democracy in the first place ....u knw hitler said it frankly i am a rascist ...but bush is hiding with his finger ...get the fuck out of arab countries and get oil from ur fuckin great usa ...why u came to them , why re killing young soldiers for the greed of a rascist ...what do u knw about ur moher , about christianity , judaism and about being a human ....u re a fuckin parasite to humanity ....u are a shame for the whole american nation ....somebody say something to all those rasict thinkin they can do evrything but just saying fuck .....shit

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: November 16, 2005 01:10AM

Thousands of words in this column and none of you dipwads have addressed the point of the picture. It doesn't matter how much you want to blast conservitives or how much profanity you can utter, bullies will be bullies untill someone takes them down a notch. Democrats/Liberals are kinda like the French, they talk and say a lot but never get around to doing anything except try get everyone on welfare. The caption in the picture is trying to say that if you leave them alone, they will leave you alone. History proves that is a sack of stinky poo poo. Africa is a shambles because most of those people over there expected to get a fair shake from their governments and all they got was beat up. And NO, it wasn't Prez Bush that beat them up. The whole mideast is beat up because some radical religeous(Muslim/Talaban) or radical non-relieous(communist/liberal)group wants to enslave the others into their ideology. Has either of these groups become truely fiscally responsible. Has either really became a true world recognized entity that produces a product or products that the rest of the world could purchace? NO, the just spend all their time and money running around trying to beat somebody up, instead of trying to get along. All you liberals are doing the same thing in the USA. You are trying to beat up all the blacks that are not liberals because they may have found a better way of life outside the welfare system. Have you ever noticed that where the most Democrats/liberals live is where the welfare, unemployment and highest crime is? And it is not just in America. Its like that all over the world.
Look at the conservitive side. A person wants to start a little business because he is tired of working for the government or whatever. Why would someone want to do a fool thing like that? I would suspect it is for the financial reward. Wouldn't you think? Or would you liberals do it just for the hell of it and give all your prophets to corrupt politians and other nerdowells. Whatever the case, most people that start a business do so for the profit margin. Get big enough and hire a few folks to make more money. Make more money and hire more people. When the business matures a little, there may be enough money to elevate ones lifestyle. After all, that is what you started this for in the first place? So along comes those employees who have become disgruntled because they think you are making to much money and strike. It is very much like the bullies beating up it neighbors in the middle east or the liberal politians beating up the conservatives in the USA. You get the bullies beating up those who are providing some product. The bullies never quit untill somebody stops them. No matter where they are in the world, bullies are bullies and must be stopped. Radical Muslims, or radical politians, they all come out of the same slimey bag. Comparing G.W. Bush to Hitler is is totally thoughtless and irresponsible. Hitler's goal was to reunite Europe under one ruler and take a few other countries while he was at it, and take out a few groups he didn't like. The numbers he didn't like went into the millions. And all you Catholics don't get to proud, the Pope took out 50million plus in Europe just because they wanted to think for themselves.
G.W. Bush, however, is trying to maintain some sembelence of order. Both in the mid-east and at home. He is not trying to conquer anybody. He is just trying to stop the bullies from beating up their neighbors. Bill Clinton had the same opportunity several times and just faked a war to get folks off his back about his infidelity to his wife. And as many blacks that Bill Clinton let die in africa because of the Hutus and the Tutsis, you never hear the blacks in the USA say a word about that. Blacks in Africa are dying by the millions at the hands of bullies and the NAACP never says a word. Its like a competition thing, they don't those blacks over there to do as well as they are doing in the USA.
You Democrat/Liberal/Communists need to take a severe look around and see what it takes to bring true peace to any country. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. And where do the Jobs come from? Its not from governments because there is no tax base from which to pay for these jobs. So it will have to be individuals with an entrapranural spirit and a profit motive. As long as you beat these people up with high taxes and other rediculasly restrictive regulations (pardon my spelling, please)up kill the potential for jobs and peace. And if you leave the bullies alone, they will only mark you as an easy target and keep hitting you untill they have taken all you have, even your freedom.

Posted by: fossil_digger
Date: August 10, 2006 11:59PM

place your bet

Posted by: aDCBeast
Date: August 10, 2006 11:39PM


I am a liberal and my way to stop future 9-11s is too contain people who have moronic vengeful thoughts that lead to useless invasions of sovereign nations.

I can't give a little boy like George Bush free reign to fuck up the world for the rest of us. We are having success in the courts fighting the Bush admin concerning terror suspects.

But the biggest victory to stop future 9-11s will happen in November when the american people tip the balance of the house of representatives. Then Bush can only break the law to stir up future 9-11s.

Posted by: aDCBeast
Date: August 10, 2006 11:33PM

YoDumbAss .. There were never any WMDs. Face it. Embrace it. The CIA and DIA knew it at the time Bush said it. They know more than you do. they have released documents to congress that say they knew it. So your story just fell apart.

Better luck next time. Chump. Keep sucking the Bush cock. It's gotten you so much this far.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: December 05, 2006 02:52PM

There is nothing wrong with the US flexing their muscles and forcing their agenda internationaly. It is the way of the world. Any other country with the financial resources and military strength would do the same.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: February 01, 2007 07:26AM

You american retards. Go to play with your monster trucks and watch some wrestling. Take a trip to hawaii or mex and blow your mind. Keep sucking bush's dick and swallow all the religious shit he says.

Don't you white trash fuckers realize why people outside US don't really like you. Try to figure that out.

Posted by: Anonymous
Date: February 14, 2007 12:58PM

Who ever put this pic up just goes to show you how STUPID Americans think they are and about how they don't see the big picture... This is self defense on the US idiot... do you think we went over there for no f*cking reason??? All they want to do is kill Americans and all you want is for them to kill you... I, for one, have no interest in a bunch of muslim radicals that want nothing in this world but to kill Americans, coming over here and killing us on our own turf... You must be a democrap... now that the democraps have taken over the senate, expect a lot more terrorist activities and more Americans killed. There's now way we have enough troops over there to stop all the killing. backing off right now is just going to stir up the ant hill. geez... we've got some really stupid people in this country...

Posted by: Republifucks!!!!!!
Date: April 07, 2008 11:48AM

Still justifying mindless Hegemony no matter how much it bankrupts your country and your culture I see.....

Stupidity is sad.

Willfull stupidity is going to find itself in Darwin's crosshairs.

Keep on keepin' on you ignorant right wing fuckups......

Posted by: woberto
Date: October 21, 2011 12:15AM

Wow. I just read this entire thread.

Posted by: fossil_digger
Date: October 21, 2011 09:29AM

i shall add this to the insanity link

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