aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 06:15AM
These men are not protecting any american's right to free speech.
The american colonists and founding fathers defended my right to speak
freely.
Iraq and the phone "war on terrorism" is not about protecting american
freedoms. It is about killing former CIA asssets and those who object to
american imperialism.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 06:16AM
How does it feel to be a mercenary for the Shia of Iraq ?
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 08:49AM
What a Wack-Jab, Lonney U R beast.
an_AmericanSoldier Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 09:06AM
DC, these men fight and die on a daily basis, so your fat lazy ass dose not
have to, they have families, hopes and dreams, just as im sure that you may
have, in some sort of lonley, twisted and sick way, they dont ask for your
respect, nor for your unkind words, as a matter of fact, they ask for very
little, and, it is because of these meen and women, that you mat be allowed to
open your meely mouth in unkind ways, the soldiers in this picture, and the
thousands that came before them have fought and died on battle filds all over
this planet to ensure your right to act like a dipshit, what have you done for
your country, beside belittle it, and show it what a true patriot should NOT be,
you should get on your knees every day, and thank god that these men and women
exist, for without them, you sir, are nothing more than a whining piece of shit,
if theer is a hell, there is a special place in it for people like you, where
you will be tortured by the accuser, until the end of time....
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 09:20AM
DC.. Take your gibberish somewhere else. Your mental condition has been pointed
out to you before but you appear to lack the capacity to heed the advice of
those who would benefit from your passing.
tribucian Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 09:54AM
My roommate pointed out yesterday that these were all volunteers, not draftees.
Sadly this is true, but it is a Catch-22 situation. They volunteer so they will
not be drafted. If there were no volunteers, the draft would be used, and those
same soldiers would still end up in Iraq, only then it would be at someone
else's choosing
90130 Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 10:02AM
Semper Fi, 8882.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 10:16AM
an_AmericanSoldier@8882
These men fight for BS. As a former US servicemen, I take offense at idea of
being a mercenary in an internal civil war.
I don't care if they have families, dreams and other BS. If they violate
international law like the Geneva conventions (the law that protects soldiers
from unlawful treatment) then they are no longer operating justly.
Choosing sides in a civil war is UNJUST by any measure.
Do not try to link this unjust cause to WWII. The last just cause.
That was the only other time the american way of life was in peril.
Vietnam. BS. Korea. BS. Grenada. BS. Panama (Noriega) BS.
Patriots do not paticipate in the war crimes of others. Current US military
participating in Iraq are accomplices to crimes against humanity.
Any time you want to show up in DC, I will show you the MFing way.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 10:18AM
Anonymous@238240
I have the ability to shrug off moron ideology that can't be supported by reason
or law.
an_AmericanSoldier Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 12:48PM
you did exsactly what as a us service man, serve chow, in a nameles field
exercise, and then, board with your on inept ability to improve your self, ended
your time in service, to lead a life of ignorance and decadance?, you are not an
american, you are a wanna be, if you were ever a soldier, then you must know
this....."ours is not to question, ours is only to do" as a soldier,
you follow orders, and when your ass is on the fuckin line, then, you better be
prepared to defend it or die, and one more thing you spineless jelly fish, dont
fuckin threatin me, you may end up seeing your own entrails...
an_AmericanSoldier Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 12:52PM
my fight with you will never be over beast, i will not rest until you are
exposed, and run fleeing in terror from my great nation, i will ohund you until
the ends of this earth, only to smile while watchng you die in your own fear and
excriment, when that time comes, let the world rejoice in the passing of one
more unsaveable soul, yours....
zxz555 Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 12:55PM
"ours is not to question, ours is only to do"
is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Knowlwdge is power, ignorance
is bliss.
zxz555 Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 12:56PM
typing is a skill
an_AmericanSoldier Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 01:23PM
and education is a must if you expect to win this fight zxz
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 04:40PM
aDCBeast...take your meds
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 05:44PM
Who the fuck do you think you are AmericanSoldier? You sound like a lame Sgt.
Slaughter rip off, and he sucked in the first place! Take your helmet off so
you can pull your head out of your ass.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 06:46PM
goverment killers is all..........
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 06:53PM
US soldiers pledge to defend the constitution, iraq was never a threat to our
way of life or our constitution.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 02, 2006 07:03PM
an_AmericanSoldier@8882
You will never do jack shit to find anyone. You are in fact the poser. You are
not US military at all.
Nice try geek.
Duane Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 02:22AM
Hey Beast,Im a former soldier and I could take you like a cheap whore,and with
beer goggles just might.ZXZ the point he was trying to make is that when you
question authority in the millitary you loose your advantage.Plus you end up in
alot of trouble unless its waranted but that is not happening in Iraq.If these
freedom fighters(terrorists)wish to blow up there own people to prove there
point then they committ the crime not the U.S.If they hide among the women and
children then they are cowards and murderers,not brave or martyrs.Sadam has been
a constant thorn in our side and was going to get worse if the French and
Russians convinced the UN to lift the sanctions against them.The whole time UN
insiders were breaking the rules of the oil for food program.I see nothing lost
by taking out Sadams government or for that matter Irans if they get to
cocky!These people are not democrats or republicans they are fundamentalist and
with them its all or nothing so these future terroists are going to be
regardless of what you think as long as it seems to be in the good grace of
there fundamentalist religion.Taking away any power they have will make them
regroup and rethink thier strategy.However you look at it,its about power.If you
have nothing against fundamentalists and persuit of power then you should stop
debating with the religious right.One thing our founding fathers had was pride
in what they were creating and the belief in the system that they created.This
is something you dont have and your angry with anyone who does and disagrees
with you.I feel sorry for you Beast,if your not paid to do what you do then the
people around you in your life must hate seeing how miserable it is for you to
live in the greatest country on earth.Thats if your not taking the same tone
with them that you do with the people on this site.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 03:34AM
""ours is not to question, ours is only to do" as a soldier, you
follow orders, and when your ass is on the fuckin line, then, you better be
prepared to defend it or die"
--- Exactly right. Soldiers don't think, they just follow orders. But if the
orders are morally wrong, does that mean that the soldiers following them are
morally wrong too?
Ok, so I'll give that the soldiers are in a bit of a catch-22 as Duane points
out: if you disobey your superiors, you can end up in a personal hell.
However, DC *does* have a point, as does 18340: Iraq never posed a threat to
the US.
The lies we were fed about WMD and Iraq's alleged ability to "hit the US in
:45min" was a big pile of B.S. fed to the U.S. population (and the
military) in order to engage in a war for ulterior motives. The U.S. illegally
invaded a nation w/ a paper-thin pretext, and has unleashed a Pandora's Box of
hellfire and cultural infighting that will not be settled any time soon. Way to
go USA!
Now Duane, your point about "I see nothing lost by taking out Saddam's govt
or for that matter Irans if they get cocky"... is a reflection of US
ego-centric thinking. Who is the USA to impose or demand anything of any
soverign country? No nation is required to act according to the dictates of the
USA, any more than the USA is required to act according to the whims and desires
of China (e.g.).
Our track record of setting up and supporting dictators in other countries
disqualifies the USA from any moral high-ground (Pinochet, Noriega, Saddam,
Ayatollah Komeini, any central american military junta, the list goes on).
If you say "might makes right", which is all the USA has to go on at
this point, then that also justifies Saddam's regime, as well as China's.
Now, the soldiers are largely innocent pawns in this. The foreign policy
decisions of their superiors are not their doing... they are just largely
ignorant (and unhappy) grunts doing shit work. I personally don't blame the
soldiers, they are doing as they have been trained. May God rest their souls in
peace.
But the objectives that they are sent towards are faulty. The occupation of
Iraqi lands is a violation of international law. The US is at fault in this
particular 'conflict'.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 03:35AM
oh who cares.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 03:49AM
"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." --
H.L. Mencken
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 04:32AM
Duane@3154
All of the comments directed at me on this site are because I have the ballz to
say the truth.
No WMDs. That means there was no justification for war. The WMD story was a LIE.
A known LIE. To trick mom and pop middle america into swallowing the Bush plan
for taking down a powerless dictator in Saddam.
Well if someone cries wolf and their cries are based on lies then I am going to
do something about it.
1) The person's who cried wolf can only be perceived as a LIAR.
2) When those lies cause people's deaths, they should be removed from any
position of power.
3) then they should be prosecuted.
Making excuses for lawbreaking that cost thousands of people their lives is
unacceptable.
As a soldier you should feel shame that the armed forces were used to carry out
a mission based on a known LIE.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 04:48AM
Fun Facts:
A 1,600-inmate faith-based prison opened in Crawfordville, Florida. Police began
random bag checks of subway passengers in New York City. *It was revealed that
the CIA had set up a secret system of prisons, called "black sites,"
around the world* ; *it was also revealed that the National Security Agency was
spying on Americans without first obtaining warrants.* Journalist Judith Miller
was released from jail and said she wanted to hug her dog. U.S. Congressman Tom
DeLay was arrested; U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff I. Lewis
"Scooter" Libby was indicted. The Pentagon admitted to using white
phosphorus during the 2004 attack on Fallujah, Iraq, and allocated $127 billion
to build a robot army. *The total number of American soldiers killed in the Iraq
war rose to 2,174, while the total number of Iraqi civilians killed rose to
27,636. "We are all waiting for death," said an Iraqi soldier,
"like the moon waiting for sunset."* *The U.S. Defense Department, in
violation of the federal Privacy Act, was building a database of 30 million 16-
to 25-year-olds.* The Department of Homeland Security announced that it had
wasted a great deal of money and needed much more. Starbucks came to Guantanamo
Bay. Scientists began work on a complete, molecule-level computer simulation of
the human brain. The project will take at least ten years.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 05:01AM
On January 2, 2006, 10:18 am aDCBeast said :
I have the ability to shrug off moron ideology that can't be supported by reason
or law.
I believe my suggestion "Your mental condition has been pointed out to you
before but you appear to lack the capacity to heed the advice of those who would
benefit from your passing."
Can be supported by any reasonable person who reads this site on a regular
basis..
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 06:39AM
Who are you beast to claim that anyone is a fake as a soldier. You being the
one who has constantly avoided my questioning of you military service with
simple questions that any soldier of your supposed training would know. You are
a coward and a FAKE.
OH and if you would like me to repost my questions I will gladly do so, just to
be constantly fair to you, by giving you endless amounts of time to prove
yourselve once and for all.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 07:53AM
GOODMAN: We're talking to Robert Fisk, correspondent for the Independent
newspaper in Britain. He has just come out of Iraq where he has spent the last
month. He is back in Beirut where he is based. Robert, the hospitals, you spent
a good amount of time there. Can you describe what you saw and perhaps what
we're not seeing. If you can follow our coverage at all here in the United
States.
FISK: Well as a matter of fact this afternoon, I took several roles of
film...real film, not digitized camera film into my film development shop here,
and was looking again at the film of children who'd been hit by American cluster
bombs in Hilla and Babylon whom I took photographs of. I'm rather shocked at
myself for taking pictures of people in such suffering. I would have to say, and
one must be fair as a correspondent, that I think that the Iraqis did position
military tanks and missiles in civilian areas. They did so deliberately; they
did so in order to try and preserve their military apparatus in the hope that
the Americans would not bomb civilian areas. The Americans did bomb civilian
areas. They may or may not have destroyed the military targets; they certainly
destroyed human beings and innocent civilians.
War is a disgusting, cruel, vicious affair. You know, I say to people over and
over again: war is not about primarily victory or defeat, it's primarily about
human suffering and death. And if you look through the pictures, which I have
beside me now as I speak to you, of little girls with huge wounds in the side of
their faces made by the pieces of metal from cluster bombs, American cluster
bombs, it's degoutant, as the French say, disgusting to even look at. But I have
to look at them. I took these pictures.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 07:54AM
Cluster bombs, to reiterate a tired point, are illegal under the Geneva
Convention, to which the US is a signatory.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 08:07AM
Cluster bombs: illegal.
White phosphorous: illegal.
Torture: illegal.
Invasion: illegal.
What else is the US doing that is illegal?
Why did we actually invade Iraq? Please, tell me the truth, and not the
"WMD" or "to get rid of a dictator" bullshit.
If the USA was invaded by a more powerful enemy, what would you do to repel the
invaders? Hmm?! What would you do. Would you cut the heads off the invading
troops? Would you serve them tea? Would you shoot them from sniper positions?
Would you wire carbombs? Would be an informer and tell them where the insurgent
positions were? Would you hide amidst the local people to disguise yourself?
Would you lie to them? Would you knife them in the kidneys? Would you suicide
bomb their ships in the harbor? What, exactly, would you be willing to do to
repel an invading force??
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 08:28AM
Anonymous@13573
Sure Duane.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 04:27PM
REMFs & FOBITs.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 09:54PM
i assure you i am not duane, though i will assume that you would assume the
same thing even if i chose to have a user login
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 03, 2006 09:59PM
by the way is there anything else you enjoy other than stirring the masses with
political horseshit (all politics are horseshit). Do you fish, play the guitar,
do anything constructive or relaxing. If you do have a hobby other than
politics i would suggest posting some pics of what you like and maybe, just
maybe i will think you are human. Otherwise your rhetoric is a little tiring
and robotic to say the least.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 04:30AM
Anonymous@13573
You're going to have to think I'm not human.
How about sitting back and wait to see if the shit I say is true or happens in
the future ?
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 04:44AM
are you have good times making many enemies aDCB?
i'm warning for YOU.
todays friends could be tomorrows enemy.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 04:52AM
On January 4, 2006, 4:30 am aDCBeast said :
Anonymous@13573
You're going to have to think I'm not human.
How about sitting back and wait to see if the shit I say is true or happens in
the future ?
You deserve no more time for your opinions than you have allowed for others.
Tell me why should i contemplate your thoughts when you are closed to others?
By the way you never seem to like to answer the simple questions or any question
for that fact.
You have a very anti-socratic method of logic. The majority of your comments are
pointed statements. Yet you never seem to give reponse to ligetamate questions.
How do you expect to convert anyone with the hope that you can say "i told
you so". If you are right you are only turning people away from your
thoughts.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 06:09AM
It's pretty easy to tell in all this verbage who is informed and who is not.
After Afganistan was secured, there would have been no invading Iraq if the
terrorists had laid low for a while. All the evidence from Clintons
administration pointed to problems in Iraq. The invasion was not against Iraq
per se but against supporters of Al Queda and the Talaban. I'll bet all you
terrorist supporters would like to see Iraq back the way it was with Sadam in
charge. Apparently you think he is a nice guy. Ask the thousands of families
that were terminated by him and his ilk because they said something much less
harmfull than you do in these blogs. You ought be glad some one else is over
there doing the dirty work for you so you don't have to face the East 5 times a
day and pray in Arabic.
History repeats itself. Let dictators of this ilk survive to opress its people
and it will turn to others to opress until they are stopped or they conquer the
world. You can't just sit back and see what happens, you have to do something
to change the course of events or get become one of the opressors victims. Show
me one GOOD dictator. This government will fail also if it keeps listening to
liberals and those politians who want to raise their income beyond the capacity
of the people to pay. We are getting close. We need to clean house and return
to our conservitive roots.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 08:09AM
Just in passing, I'll note that none of the posters here have taken on my
comments. They persist in attacking DCBeast with ad hominium ("attack the
man"
assaults - labelling his character and dealing
nothing with the substance. Granted, DC does largely the same by insulting
people back, which basically baits them into pointless firefights.
I dare someone to take on the substance of what he, or I, are saying.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 05:49PM
Anonymous@13573
Because unlike you, I have more info than you. That info is getting out slowly
but you all fight it every step of the way.
Anonymous@6272
Afghanistan is not secured. That is Manure.
The government was microscopic so overthrowing it was easy. Especially since the
rebels were far less armed than those in Iraq.
Saddam should have been removed the legal way. What the US has done is
illegal.
Saddam was not a dictator. He had very little little power in his own country
which made his more of a figure head. The secret police and higher divisions of
of the army did their own thinking and killing. The CIA and DIA know that. Your
average american does not know this.
The government in Iraq is going to fail no matter what liberals or politicians
say about it.
The country is having a civil war as we speak and the US military is the
referee.
When the US leaves the government will be overthrown by pissed off Sunnis
because securing Iraq is not what the Shia care to do.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 05:52PM
Anonymous@234119
What enemies ? Oh you chumps? No challenge there.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 05:56PM
what makes you think you know more than me dc, is it your so-called government
job. You must believe you are the only connected individual then.
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 08:28PM
13573: You got some facts? Bust 'em out, yo. So far you've only unleashed
lame insults.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 04, 2006 10:30PM
Am i not to question someone else's logic, John_Stone? I make no counterpoints
because their have been no answers to my question. I want to know
who,what,when,where, and why, and yet still all the "facts" you
"busted out" are less than tangible. So prove to me why i should
think your way. Please don't repeat the news to me, i can watch or read the
sensationalism when i want to.
And please don't tell me that when you and dc beast make statements (biased)
that they are facts. They just end up as conspiracy theories. Though to your
credit John_Stone when you do occassionally take off you mind reader's hat and
actual state undisputable facts (us sponsored dictators).
I just have no need to argue with things that i agree on, but i will question
"facts" that seem biased
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 05, 2006 07:32AM
Anonymous@13573
No one has delivered more than I. What I have said has come true.
And it's not because I'm Nostradamus.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 05, 2006 11:30AM
Well, you can't be Nostradamus =and= God, can you?
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: January 06, 2006 05:17AM
You might. God in supposed to be in everything.
