Posted by: maddie
Date: August 14, 2009 01:56PM
Charlie Brown was a B-17 Flying Fortress pilot with the 379th Bomber Group at
Kimbolton, England. His B-17 was called 'Ye Old Pub' and was in a terrible
state, having been hit by flak and fighters. The compass was damaged and they
were flying deeper over enemy territory instead of heading home to
After flying over an enemy airfield, a pilot named Franz Steigler was ordered to
take off and shoot down the B-17. When he got near the B-17, he could not
believe his eyes. In his words, he 'had never seen a plane in such a bad state'.
The tail and rear section was severely damaged, and the tail gunner wounded. The
top gunner was all over the top of the fuselage. The nose was smashed and there
were holes everywhere.
Despite having ammunition, Franz flew to the side of the B-17 and looked at
Charlie Brown, the pilot. Brown was scared and struggling to control his damaged
and blood-stained plane.
Aware that they had no idea where they were going, Franz waved at Charlie to
turn 180 degrees. Franz escorted and guided the stricken plane to and slightly
over the North Sea towards England. He then saluted Charlie Brown and turned
away, back to Europe.
When Franz landed he told the CO that the plane had been shot down over the sea,
and never told the truth to anybody. Charlie Brown and the remains of his crew
told all at their briefing, but were ordered never to talk about it.
More than 40 years later, Charlie Brown wanted to find the Luftwaffe pilot who
saved the crew. After years of research, Franz was found. He had never talked
about the incident, not even at post-war reunions.
They met in the USA at a 379th Bomber Group reunion, together with 25 people who
are alive now - all because Franz never fired his guns that day. Research shows
that Charlie Brown lived in Seattle and Franz Steigler had moved to Vancouver,
BC after the war. When they finally met, they discovered they had lived less
than 200 miles apart for the past 50 years!!
Posted by: doofy
Date: August 14, 2009 03:14PM
Thanks for the amazing story,I remember reading it years ago in the Vancouver
Sun newspaper and it was quite compelling.
I also remember a part where the German pilot thought to himself "I've had
enough killing for one day" just before deciding to
escort the Yankee fly-boys home.
Date: August 14, 2009 07:50PM
i thought MAddie and Mex anti-war
Posted by: maddie
Date: August 15, 2009 01:51PM
I am against WAR. But WAR does happen and SOMETIMES necessary.
We fought a country with no :
No Standing Military
and basicaly a dirt shit country with no DEfense.
And we managed to BREAK our Economy doing it.
Bush and friends knew that this war would bring great profit as well as loot
from invading that countrys plunder.
WERES OUR RETURN ON MY MONEY INVESTMENT...........
Money doent go away. Follow the Money trail.
No ,not against NECESSARY WAR. Just one were gonna get screwed out of our
Date: August 15, 2009 02:24PM
i would say we dominated the air space and all the tanks fell for the old end
around. and we spent ourselves into this mess. but that's me.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2009 02:26PM by fossil_digger.
Date: August 15, 2009 11:03PM
I was originally for the invasions of both Afghanistan and Iraq, but I'm having
second thoughts now. I think we would have ultimately been better off if we had
invaded Venzuela, and just let the ragheads kill each other off. Nobody on
Earth is as enthusiastic about, and efficient at, killing ragheads, as other
ragheads. Maybe carpet bomb whichever side starts winning too much, until
they're more or less even, then air-drop guns and ammo to both sides.