Anonymous Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 05:15AM
see you may 1st...
rogue_1 Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 06:16AM
WHY
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 11:10AM
Why? Because people like me who play by the rules and buy health insurance are
paying the medical bills of all these illegals and I'm fucking tired of it. Pay
a decent wage and Americans will pick the crops.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 12:22PM
It would be much cheaper to shoot the illegals. This is just Mexico's way of
trying to get Texas back and invading America without us knowing it. If they
don't have a green card kill them. Better than giving up our country without a
fight.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 02:47PM
"Pay a decent wage and Americans will pick the crops." True... so
don't bitch when tomatoes cost a buck each and all restaurants and fast food
chains raise prices across the board.
Mint Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 03:19PM
a lot of them cross for the work and then go back home..i dont see why they
dont just get a legal visa..come here to work and go back home. millions of
people do it every year..its not that hard.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 04:20PM
If you lived in Texas as I do and had seen the continuing influx of migrants
that's flooded our state and strained our states welfare rolls, you'd have a
different perspective regarding this situation.
Since the recent legislation was proposed this has been a HOT topic here and for
good reason!
If these folks were all legal citizens and lived and worked by the same rules as
are applied to every other US citizen, it would be a different situation.
Many of these very proud and hardworking people do so, and I applaud them for
it. Hundreds of thousands and likely millions more live in single dwellings
with 10+ others, work for cash and then send 80% or more of the $$ made here
back home to Mexico and then hit up the county run free medical facilities when
the need arises which causes financial havoc to the system without ever paying
in a single dime to support it!
I'd like to see a SERIOUS enforcement of the border here to enforce the existing
policies already on the books. This would be a great start!
The burgeaoning population of illegal immigrants were already given an amnesty
in the 90s and all that was asked then was that they begin the same
naturalization process all other immigrants are asked of to be allowed to become
legal citizens, though the compliance with this request went mostly ignored out
of fear of persecution, which has surely led in no small part to the current
proposed legislation.
We are now mandated to have bilingual programs in our school systems to educate
children of illegal immigrants which also comes at a premium to the legal
taxpayers here ! What a sad joke this is on all who have to support this.
I take no issue with ANY immigrants, so long as they approach it in the legal
and right way. Those who are here illegally and pose a continued strain on the
economy and legal system should be deported.
In the last year an illegal Mexican immigrant killed a Ft Worth police officer
and when asked why, his comment was that he did so because it was easy and he
felt like his likely punishment would only be deportation at worst.
The Mexican govts appeal in all this to return him to Mexico and let them deal
with it because Texas supports the death penalty for killing law officers will
likely be done, totally subverting the fact that he killed one of not only our
citizens, but a policeman.
This incident, though an atypical one, speaks of a much larger problem.
To me it's simple, enforce our borders, our current immigration policies and
laws on everyone here equally as it should be and should have been all along!
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 06:53PM
Blame NAFTA and Clinton and Bush for supporting corporations' "needs"
to find the cheapest labor "markets" possible.
You'll never stop "illegals" because the corporations and farms demand
cheap labor that cannot organize, and can be fired at a moment's notice.
On top of it, those in power are using the scare tactic of "illegals
stealing YOUR jobs!" to keep people divided and fighting against each
other.
The fact is, many of your jobs (telemarketing, custom car construction,
textiles) are =already= being done by American prisoners, inside jail, for
ridiculously low wages.
And you sit here ranting on.. "Oh, if illegals do it the =right= way..
=then= they're ok by me.." BS.
No person is illegal... and anyway, this whole country is made up of fucking
immigrants anyway.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: April 09, 2006 07:30PM
LEARN FUCKING ENGLISH! IF YOUR GOING TO STAY IN THE US
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: April 10, 2006 02:37AM
John, you have a point or 2 correct in this and waaaaay off in others.
NAFTA and large corporations are certainly partially or largely to blame. NAFTA
was BS here and we Texans knew it and siad so, didn matter, still came to pass,
much to our chagrine I assure you.
The illegals COULD be stopped if the border were enforced. Completely, I doubt
it, but the tide could certainly at least be stemmed. The biggest reason the
problem has reached the proportions it stands at now is that we DID NOT secure
the border years ago, plain and simple.
Scaring us into thinking their taking our jobs, hardly. However, if you lived
here you'd know how the influx of these workers has changed the face (and
overall quality) of the construction trades or know that their inability to
expect fair treatment by employers over fear of bein fired as they work along
side other American workers has indeed influenced many industries stance in how
they treat employees in general.
Though I can't speak for any other state than my own, the penal system here
makes the inmates at least somewhat self sufficient, though by NONE of the means
you suggested.
I do know that everyone of us in the US are immigrants or descendents of
immigrants except for the native Indian population here John. I also know that
there are set in stone regulations regarding naturalization here which serve to
intergate immigrants into our society and tax base so that they can contribute
to the country they reside in that are being flatly circumvented and that is NOT
ok by me. And yes, when this process is avoided they are indeed ILLEGALLY doing
so, which makes them both "illegals" and in fact criminals.
If you want to live in this country, make a life here for your family, is it
really too much to ask that you contribute to the country that you live in ?
Lastly to second Anonymous@119234s thoughts, hell yeah, learn the fucking common
language here, just as I'd do were I living in ANY other country on the planet,
it's really nothing more than common courtesy to those around you.
Mint Report This Comment Date: April 10, 2006 05:53AM
haha 119234 always a riot when people tell others to learn english but say
your instead of you're
John_Stone Report This Comment Date: April 10, 2006 08:10PM
MrKim: That's nice that Texas prisoners aren't doing any of the low-wage labor
that I mentioned (which help reduce non-prisoners' job opportunities). I can
assure you that around the country these things are being done in American
prisons. You can call it "self-sufficient", but they are, in fact,
removing jobs from the pool that non-prisoners can do, and lowering the bottom
of what people can expect. Low paid, prisoner's can be "let go" from
any job whenever the company wants... what free employee can match that?
As for scaring people, Look at the impact: People divided against each other,
throwing hate and epithets at each other, the rich/corporations making more
money from low-wage, "flexible" labor pools, ... and we have no chance
to organize against that B.S. because of the divisiveness of the issue. This
very post is representative of this situation (whether or not the poster meant
it as such).
Essentially this is Class Warfare:
Using prisoners to lower the bottom end of worker expectations, using
"illegals" to keep a working population vulnerable and willing to
accept any (abusive) situation. Etc., etc.
The rich make bank, while the rest of us become more vulnerable, and see our
real-value wages declining by the year.
Eh. Best of luck to all of you then.
madmexrva Report This Comment Date: April 10, 2006 11:10PM
Mexican today,Mexican Tommorow ,Mexican yesterday and Mexican in the future. Yo
Quero TacoBell. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa its the mexicans fault.
shaDEz Report This Comment Date: April 11, 2006 12:49AM
tequila...
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: April 13, 2006 10:56AM
I'll never understand Mexico - a country rich with beautiful coast line,
natural resources, and a hard working faith based people but they have to go
north to feed themselves. There is something truly fucked up about that society.