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Truth Report This Comment
Date: October 19, 2004 12:41AM

Aint that the truth
dan Report This Comment
Date: October 19, 2004 01:08AM

I could not agree more, I think we need to let Mr. Bush know, "This is the USA (United states of America) Not USA (United Saudi Arabia!!!)
Undecided Voter Report This Comment
Date: October 19, 2004 01:21PM

You forgot Poland!
KT Report This Comment
Date: October 19, 2004 01:34PM

Let's vote this dumb shit out of the office.
Art Report This Comment
Date: October 19, 2004 04:30PM

Bush/Cheney
Four more wars! Four more wars!
Blackswarm Report This Comment
Date: October 20, 2004 03:58AM

Fucking dumbshits! You think we are In w/ Saudi Arabia? Thats so stupid...if the US was IN with the Saudi's then I wouldn't be paying between 1.75 and 1.89 a fucking gallon every week or so I fill up my gas tank!

You guys are retarded! All the terrorist want Kerry to win cause they know he won't do shit about anything! He'll let the UN take control and they won't do a god damn thing!
ho\'sbro Report This Comment
Date: October 20, 2004 09:42AM

Who is "we" anyway?....is it the U.S. or Bush and Cheney? ....since when does what you pay have anything to do with who you're paying it to?...did you poll the terrorist to know they want Kerry?....maybe they want Bush to remain in the White House so that they can remain safe with Bin Laden....they found Sadaam in a spider hole in a resisting country and they can't find Bin Laden in a mountain range with hundreds of men in a free country with spy satellites that can read insignias on their uniforms...really don't think they are looking too hard for him..... or he'll show up a few days before the election to boost support for Bush....I'd rather have a president in office that's gettin' a B.J. and lying about it than someone keeping the American public totally in the dark about national policy....Bush could retire today and not worry another day in his life over money due to all the cash he got from oil profits and defense contracts.
Blackswarm Report This Comment
Date: October 20, 2004 05:24PM

You are one stubborn ill-informed asshole! Think about this one...since 9/11 has there been a terrorist threat/attack in america? Hell no! Cause we've killed most of the mother fuckers and they can't communitcate w/ each other! I'd say Bush and the troops in the Middle-East are doing a damn good job!
Strife Report This Comment
Date: October 20, 2004 06:20PM

The terrorists would love to have anybody but Bush. That's because Bush is kicking their ass. Over 70% of Al Qaeda leadership is dead. They are in utter disarray, and that's why they haven't been able to attack us. If John Kerry is president, he's basically said he's not going to "go it alone" *ahem*30 countries in Iraq*ahem*. There is little to no guarentees that Kerry will defend us the way Bush has, and that's why they support him. We aren't even sure if Osama bin Ladin was at Tora Bora, or if he's even still alive now. He might have died in Tora Bora. He might have died earlier. He might have died since (he was in terrible condtion for quite a while).

Ask Vladmir Putin of Russia. He thinks all of the recent terrorist activities is entirely bent on affecting our elections, while all but endorsing Bush. Why do you think al-Zarqawi said he's aligned with Osama bin Ladin just recently? He's trying to create as much fear as possible. He's trying to set the stage for making people scared that Bush is actually going to be brave and keep fighting them.

Kerry's not going to get any additional countries to join. One German official said, quote, "pound sand" regardless of who wins. The French have said the same. I think President Bush is more likely to get Putin to join the fray, because Putin's starting to sound alot like him now with the incident in Beslan. He wants the world to help him take on his terrorists as well, even if it is only 31 countries (adding one for Russia) instead of the 34 during the first Gulf War that came with U.N. approval.

John Kerry supported going to war in Iraq. Quote:
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Remarks of Senator John Kerry on Iraq to the US Senate
October 09, 2002

He then voted against the funding for armor and equipment for our troops. He said before hand on Meet the Press that to vote against that would be "irresponsible", but that didn't stop him. Then he later admitted he voted against it as a "protest". He's using our troops' very lives as nothing but a political tool. Making a big deal about the magical number of 1,000 casualties is a perfect example of this.

Oh, and if you think the only scandal Clinton was involved in was the Monica Lewinsky incident, I suggest you go to the [www.judicialwatch.org] website. It's non-partisan, but it shows alot of the scandals he had under his belt (no pun intended) including White Water, which was a pyramid scheme.

The truth is, Kerry is going to be weak if he wins. His record proves it. His protesting the Vietnam War, with 50 admitted war criminals is worthless because it was later proven that many of them weren't in the military and some the were weren't in Vietnam. None of them ever signed a deposition for their war crimes. Investigations failed to prove a single one of their war crimes. What war crimes there were happened very rarely and were prosecuted when discovered. They never were status quo.

The point is, John Kerry claimed he was a WAR CRIMINAL. Quote:

There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.

-- John Kerry, on NBC's "Meet the Press" April 18, 1971

So either he's an admitted war criminal or a liar who painted our servicemen as such. He's a God-damn bastard that shouldn't be president... period.
Anonymous User Report This Comment
Date: October 20, 2004 09:39PM

yes, Bush is the reason why there has been no terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11

by the way, the magic rock I have in my backyard is why there have been no wild tiger attacks in my state since i bought it
me one Report This Comment
Date: October 20, 2004 10:38PM

On October 20, 2004, 1:20 pm Strife earnt 2 brainwash points, to also earn points follow this simple tutorial:

ctrl+c
[find page slagging off america]
ctrl+v
[go to bed happy]
american Report This Comment
Date: October 20, 2004 11:03PM

people in other countries need to know, bush is just another man in office.In america we the people decide and he had to of had are support to start with. AND STILL HAS MINE!!!!!
ho\'sbro Report This Comment
Date: October 21, 2004 11:43AM

blackswarm and strife,
just getting back to seeing your statements and wanted to make a few comments on what you guys had to say.....first off,,,yes i'm stubborn but not ill-informed....if I'm ill-informed then the American public is ill-informed...I watch about 2-3 hours of news a day and take a completely unbiased approach to the news...If you think for one second that there have been no threats or attacks you're wrong...there have been no pubically known sucessful attacks (one publically known attack/planned attack thwarted on the Brooklyn Bridge) true but every holiday the color-coded terrorist threat meter goes crazy and it will probably never go back down to a place where dumb Americans feel safe....I feel safe as I ever have....my daily life is insignificantly safer due to the anti-terrorist task forces....When I get in my car and some dumb fuck that doesn't know how to drive almost runs me off the road I don't feel a bit safer.....and Strife I ain't gonna get into all that you stated ...a lot of what you said makes sense but it's all because i've heard all the same spins on the news that you have ....Bush's people keep saying Kerry is gonna be weak....but I bet those V.C. he killed didn't think he was weak...He's proved that he was committed to the U.S. and would do what it takes to eliminate our enemies even if it goes against Geneva Convention...Let's not get into talking in depth about military records because Bush woulda been a good soldier had he showed up...but again all those things you've mentioned have been beaten into the ground....I personally don't think neither Bush nor Kerry is good for America...and when I say America I mean the average middle class person....Politics is all about redistribution of wealth and in either the Republican or Democrats plan the middle class loses....what America needs to do is: pick a loser and back him (thats all we can do with the current election system)....buy American so that your neighbor has a job besides working at Wal-mart or McDonalds....and get back to business as usual. Not saying that terrorism isn't a problem but most of the attacks on America didn't just happen...people ignored warnings or didnt do their jobs because they were told by their superiors to ignore these warnings (i.e. saudi's learning how to take off and fly planes but not wanting to learn how to land)....and to comment on another point of your's, I think that the war was necessary (even though WMDs were not found, some experts estimate that Sadaam may have killed up to a million people) and the military is doing a great and vital thing, but the live's being lost every day is every bit as tragic as the lives lost on 9/11....they need to turn things over to the governments in those countries and get our people home...and imply sanctions on these countries if they don't hand over people like Bin Laden...sanctions work on decent people...we've spent enough on giving them Freedom, now they have to do what we have to do, Fight everyday to stay free.
Blackswarm Report This Comment
Date: October 21, 2004 08:28PM

thanks for an honestly good post ho'sbro! In my eyes the lesser of two evils is definetly Bush...again thats my opinion....and I am still very glad saddam is out of power! I know most of you probably don't read other cities papers but, Yesterday in the Washington Post was a very good article...this man paid a lot of money for a whole page of the paper to do this! Please take the time to at least read it!
Wednesday, October 20th 2004
You’re a Republican???


In today’s America, ask a growing number of high school and college students; their teachers and professors; the self-anointed media elite and/or hard working men and women of all ethnicities, the question, “What is a Republican?”, and you’ll be told “… a rich, greedy, egotistical individual, motivated only by money and the desire to accumulate more and more of it, at the expense of the environment … the working poor ….and all whom they exploit…”

I am a Republican … I am none of those things… and I don’t know any Republicans who are.

WHAT I AM … first and foremost, is a loving husband of some 52 plus years, the father of four and an American who’s proud of his country… and his country’s heritage.

WHAT I AM … is the grandson of immigrants who risked everything, including their lives and those of their children, to escape tyranny in search of freedom.

WHAT I AM … is a man who grew up during the Depression and witnessed, first hand, the effects of the Stock Market crash and the soup lines that followed. I watched as both my parents and grand parents, who had very little themselves, share what food they had with a half dozen other families, who had even less.

WHAT I AM … is someone who worked his way through college by holding down three and four jobs at a time and then used that education to build a better life.

WHAT I AM … is a husband who, at age 24, started his own business for the “privilege” of working 60, 70 and 80 hours a week, risking everything I had, including my health, in search of a better life for myself and my loved ones.

WHAT I AM … is a businessman whose blood, sweat and tears…. and plenty of them…, made it possible for me to provide a secure living, not only for my family and myself, but also for literally hundreds of my employees throughout the years. Employees, who in turn, were able to buy their own homes, raise their own families and give back to their communities and their country.

WHAT I AM … is a man who believes in God; a God who has blessed this country… and all for which it stands.

WHAT I AM … is someone who knows, if you doubt miracles exist in today’s world, you need only to look into the face of those who received them … and the eyes of those who give them.

WHAT I AM … is an American who’s proud that his President embraces a belief in God; proud of a President who understands, as “politically incorrect” as it may be, there is evil in this world and for the security and safety of all freedom loving people everywhere, it must be confronted… and it must be defeated.

WHAT I AM … is an American who takes comfort in the knowledge that our President refuses to allow decisions concerning the very safety and security of this nation, to be governed by the political whims of foreign governments.

WHAT I AM … is tired of hearing from leading Democrats who see only negativity in America; racism in her people; class warfare in her society and “political incorrectness” in her character.

WHAT I AM … is a former democrat who now understands that it is the soldier and not the reporter that guarantees us our freedoms of press, speech and dissent.

WHAT I AM … is a man who believes in the sanctity of life. A man who is repulsed by the pandering of the political left for votes, at the expense of the unborn.

WHAT I AM … is a husband and father who believes in the sanctity of marriage and the preservation of the family unit.

WHAT I AM … is a movie go-er who is repulsed by those insecure, socially inept, elementary thinking, ego-inflated “entertainers” who have appointed themselves “experts” in the fields of national security and geo-politics and then use their forum to attack this nation, its leaders and its actions…. much to the delight and encouragement of our enemies.

WHAT I AM … is an American who understands the difference between “censorship” and “choice”. Evidently, these individuals do not, because when these same “celebrities” receive public ridicule for their offensive actions, the first thing they yell is “Censorship!”. What they seem incapable of understanding is… the right of free speech and dissent is shared equally by those offended… as well as those who offend. I support and will continue to support those films and performers whom I choose to … and refuse to support those I don’t. It is my right as an American … a right I will continue to enthusiastically exercise.

WHAT I AM … is a voter, tired of politicians, who, every time their voting records are subjected to public scrutiny, try to divert attention from their political and legislative failures by accusing their opponents of “attack ads” and “negative campaigning”…. and the news media who allow them to get away with it.

WHAT I AM … is a Catholic who loves his God and his Faith… and who’s been taught to respect all religions whose teachings are based in love, peace and charity. As such, I am embarrassed and ashamed of those individuals, in both private and public life, whose decisions and actions are devoid of any sense of character or morals; individuals who are only driven by what’s best for them … rather than what’s right … often times at the expense of many …. including our national security.

WHAT I AM … is a realist who understands that the terrorist attack that murdered hundreds of innocent Russian children could have occurred here, in our heartland. That’s why I sincerely believe America needs now, more than ever, a President who sees with a clear and focused vision and who speaks with a voice when heard by both friend and foe alike, is understood, respected and believed.

WHAT I AM … is eternally grateful to Ronald Reagan for having the bravery to speak out against Communism and the courage of his convictions in leading the fight to defeat it; and George W. Bush for the vision, courage, conviction and leadership he has shown in America’s war on terrorism amidst both the constant and vicious, personal and political attacks both he and his family are made to endure.

WHAT I AM … is a human being, full of numerous faults and failures, but a man nonetheless, who, though not always successful, has continually strived to do “what’s right” instead of “what’s easy”. A man who is challenging the religious leaders of all faiths, to not only preach to their congregations the fundamentals of “what’s right” and “what’s wrong”, but to also then hold them accountable for their actions in both the public and private sectors.

WHAT I AM … is disgusted with the Courts who, on one hand, call the murder of a pregnant woman a “double homicide” but then refer to the abortion of her baby as, “pro-choice”.

WHAT I AM … is someone deeply troubled by a political party which embraces a candidate whose primary “leadership” qualities center around his protesting of the Vietnam war and his labeling the honorable men and women who fought in it, (50,000 of whom gave their lives in that action), as rapists, and war criminals. That same political party then stepped forward this year to block the appearance of a true Vietnam war hero, retired Admiral and former United States Senator, Jeremiah Denton, (a man who spent seven years and seven torturous months in a North Vietnam prison), from speaking before an open session of the California legislature as part of that state’s 4th of July celebration. The reason Democrats gave for refusing to allow this American hero to speak before their state legislature was because of the “conservative” nature of his views. As an American, that troubles me deeply ….as well it should you.

WHAT I AM … is a man who feels the need to spend, $104, 655.60,(tax paid) of his own money, to purchase this advertisement, in order to set the story straight. Some may say this money would have been better spent feeding the world’s poor. At the risk of sounding self-serving, as an American and as a Republican, for the last six decades of my life, I have done exactly that… and more. Following the examples of my parents and grand parents, I have used my earnings to feed the poor, shelter the homeless, provide housing for the elderly and medical care for the sick….. and continue to do so… and I’m not alone in that work.

WHAT I AM … is someone who is paying for this announcement, at my sole expense, in hopes of opening the eyes of those led blindly by ill-informed elements of our great nation, who, through either ignorance, or malicious intent, repeatedly attack and belittle those of us who belong to a political party that holds true to the belief, “… the rights of the governed, exceed the power of the government”. For those interested, I am speaking only as a tax-paying individual who is in no way associated with The Republican National Committee, nor with any of its directors, or delegates.

WHAT I AM … is a man who understands, “the American way of life” is a message of self-empowerment for all.

WHAT I AM … is an American who is grateful that our nation gives each of us the opportunity of self-determination and the right to benefit from the fruits of self achievement.

WHAT I AM … is an American who wants to preserve that way of life for all who seek it.

WHAT I AM … is blessed to be an American…. and proud to be Republican.



George J. Esseff, Sr.
george@ess&# 101;ff-foundation .org



Strife Report This Comment
Date: October 21, 2004 09:18PM

Whenever I said no attacks have happened since 9/11, I of course meant no major ones. Attacks have happened, they have almost all been foiled or minute.

Oh, and if I'm the brainwashed one, why didn't you respond to Kerry's own admission to being a war criminal? Either he's a war criminal or a man who falsely claimed that about our troops in Vietnam. Think about it. I'll post it again for emphasis:

"There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals."

-- John Kerry, on NBC's "Meet the Press" April 18, 1971

If you don't believe me, listen to it for yourself:
[www.streamload.com]

Respond to that without attacking Bush. Respond to that for what it is... I doubt you will.
Dragonfire Report This Comment
Date: October 23, 2004 02:47PM

Terrorists don't have to attack us in America..since Bush invaded Iraq for no reason (except oil and they threatened to kill his daddy) over 1100 more americans have died. Bush sucks...vote Kerry.
cesiuminjector Report This Comment
Date: February 10, 2005 08:38PM

this war is to expensive for it to be over oil